championcavalry

Perhaps we can do something to stop them from thinking like this? I think some communication is good. There must be a reason why they hate 0ad so much that they would spend their own time to organize discord groups to attack the game. They are not mentally insane people, I have played with most of them and they all started as friendly players until someone provoked them. If we find the reasons with each of them perhaps we can reach some agreement of ceasefire. Otherwise this eye for an eye battle between moderator and these people will continue forever and we always have the risk of being brought down.

Please see my topic, hopefully it bring your argument to a peaceful solution: I have been playing with @Yekaterina for a long time, they used to be a nice player and helpful at contributing to developments. Some things happened and they gradually pushed her down the wrong path. We should look at what went wrong to prevent more Yekaterinas appearing. I am not appealing for anyone, I think boths sides have made mistakes. Obviously Yekaterina shouldn't make so many smurf accounts, try spamming and encourage other people to do bad things. But I also think it's not appropriate for a moderator to contact Yekaterina on a platform outside WFG at late night, especially when he/she felt harassed by the messages. If I understood correctly, there is a second set of "draft rules" that is not displayed at the sign-up page. If the moderators are enforcing any rules they should make it very clear for everyone to see, so that nobody steps across a red line without knowing. It would help to pin the rules at registration page or a gaudy location on the homepage. If you just enforce things without telling people, they will think that you are misusing your powers just to please yourselves, hence there will be "dictator" accusations. I do believe that the moderators are serving the best interest of 0ad but maybe some things should be made transparent or at least explained and some methods should be revised. When I read @Norse_Harold's post I get the impression that he fears Yekaterina's metamorphic identites and will try to stop him/her at all costs. I think this is a bit extreme, it will only provoke Yekaterina more and give him/her motivation to do more damage. On the contrary, if you just ignore the likely smurfs, for example the most recent inzhu, they will most likely stay well-behaved because they don't want to get discovered. So there won't be any wave of chaos. I also played with inzhu and they were well behaved in games, not toxic or spamming anything dangerous. On the forum this inzhu talks about multithreading, which is useful for 0ad. Had we kept inzhu, their expertise can be used to improvement of 0ad engine. Isn't this good for "restorative justice"? But after purging inzhu and disturbing Yeka at late night, Yeka is angry again and now we have chaos again. If you suspect inzhu is Yeka you can choose to kick him from your game and tell other hosts to do the same, but editing all of their forum account then provoking Yeka is too much and didn't have any positive effect.

Hi, I want to look for a peaceful way to solve the disputes between some users and moderators. Every day I see some new accounts joining the lobby and games to paste messages criticizing the moderators and it's annoying us. They always talk about unjust mutes / bans "without evidence" then calls the moderator (one in particular) a "dictator". We can ban them but they always just come back with another account. They also rally for support and fans from players to support them and join spamming. Having seen many of these spam complaints I think these banned players don't understand what they did wrong. Some even don't think they made a mistake at all and other clueless players start sympathizing with them. I think a transparent public announcement would help to solve the problem: Player A infringed on these rules: 1. 2. 3. The evidence are these: 1. 2. 3. Therefore the sanctions are these: 1. 2. 3. At least players won't listen to their spam anymore and they will probably quit after getting bored. These santioned players would also know why they are being sanctioned, with evidence of their misconduct. Maybe they will go away after embarrasing themselves. p.s. I am not questioning any decisions of the moderators or WFG, the above are just my opinions. I am not appealing for anyone. Please don't retaliate on me.