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One additional issue is that the troublesome DELAYLOAD issue is back, it appears some changes were lost in 9830. (Maybe we need to add a list of exceptions for delayed loading?) Removing openal from the DELAYLOAD options seems to work.

The Spidermonkey build should be fixed now so that it uses a relative path instead of /usr/local/lib (same fix we used for ENet). You'll still have to copy pyrogenesis from the app package to /binaries/system/. In my opinion the package serves no purpose and only makes the build process more complicated by breaking the paths. It's worth looking into for releases if anyone can be bothered.

IMO mines are the rarest and most useful resource on the map and also the most sparse (hardest to find if you don't know where to look). I would have stone mines appear as small greyish rock shapes, and metal mines appear as anvils (should look pretty good even with so few pixels). Trees are very easy to find by comparison. Animals are constantly moving so I would avoid using pixel art for them, it will just be clutter.

This is an interesting idea. Pixel art would certainly convey more information than single colored points, if it's not overused.

I think this is an important point. The pre-rendered textures method sounds like we'd be painting ourselves into a corner, we shouldn't do that unless there's no other choice (mostly for performance reasons, I guess).

On the last mockup, I would change the minimap design a bit. Eventually we are going to have at least 4 buttons (example), in the corners, so there should be room for those. Also I think it would be more aesthetically appealing if the curves on the minimap flowed to the edge of the screen instead of coming back around at the top.

Looks good. In fact all the smoothed lines look about the same to me, with the natural cubic and rounded nonuniform looking best IMO. Maybe do which ever is fastest?

An RPG mod would be almost completely tangential to 0AD because the game play would differ so much from an RTS, it wouldn't be easy to say the least. Technically, it would be possible. I guess the renderer, GUI, pathfinder, hardware abstractions, component system, etc., could be reused. That's possible, we just haven't designed the in-game GUI that way. Someone expressed interest in working on this recently. As far as I know, that is planned for scenarios but will maybe have to wait until we iron out the rest of the gameplay. Impassable terrain can be defined fairly easily in passability classes, depending on what you want to do it may require additional changes to the pathfinder. Sure, most of that stuff is scripted so you could even test changes during a game. We've got a hotkey system. That's already there in the entity templates.

Agreed, it reminds me a bit of the old board game Risk. I'm generally in favor of dynamic gameplay, so that every game is different. I don't think buildings should be drained of HP as a part of territory behavior, like ribez said they could be repaired, but it's not all that realistic anyway. Instead their aura of influence should be slowly diminished (slow enough that it may be preferable to attack the building rather than waiting).

OK, here's a patch (for SVN trunk) that fixes the XCode test project's shell script. VS and XCode need the same path adjustment so I combined the two. cxxtestgen-xcode.patch

Cool, I look forward to your updates. More AIs means more variety, it's great to see so many people working on them

I originally had in mind a more 3D line (raise up off the ground) but your mockup shows the boundaries very distinctly.

Tested your patch on OS X, both gcc and xcode3 projects are working with PCH now That leaves the xcode3 test project, which fails to build: /Users/ben/0ad/build/workspaces/xcode3/obj/test_Release/test.build/Script-9607AE1010C857E500CD1376.sh: line 58: ../../build/bin/cxxtestgen.pl: No such file or directory

Edit: Philip helped me with some things and it works now! Attaching system_info.txt to verify it does whatever it needs to do. system_info.txt And finally the patch for these changes: cpuid-patch.patch

Honestly, I find it quite a success that the game could be compiled successfully in XCode with just those two changes: build without PCH and manually run nasm! That makes sense because the 64-bit OS X kernel is fairly new, surely they have fixed this for XCode 4? I could buy it from the App Store and see what fun awaits... I wouldn't call replacing XCode's binaries a good solution, maybe there's some setting or path variable we could override to force the newer MacPort nasm, assuming we still need it

Like this? If so, it did compile. static void cpuid(x86_x64_CpuidRegs* regs) { #if HAVE_CPUIDEX cassert(sizeof(regs->eax) == sizeof(int)); cassert(sizeof(*regs) == 4*sizeof(int)); __cpuidex((int*)regs, regs->eax, regs->ecx); #else #define __cpuid(level, index, a, b, c, d) \ __asm__ ("cpuid\n\t" \ : "=a" (a), "=b" (, "=c" ©, "=d" (d) \ : "0" (level), "2" (index)) #endif }

Well this is funny, I ran nasm manually on the command line and then tried building again and it succeeded (using the environment vars from the above error message). I wonder if there's something it doesn't like about the format of that string, maybe extra whitespace somewhere? Or more likely something in the environment that breaks it but what... Ah you're right, but somehow that wasn't updated even though I have the latest revision O.o Umm I'll need a while to digest this, but sure I'll try it

I'm exploring the xcode support (on 10.6.6 OS X). Interesting notes so far: It won't compile with PCH enabled because there's a relative path issue - it can't find precompiled.h so the build fails Running update-workspaces-new.sh using the --without-pch option allows the build to continue source/lib/sysdep/arch/x86_64/topology.cpp fails to compile due to std::bitset not being defined. So I included <bitset> instead of <set> and it compiled, hopefully this works on other platforms? There's a lot of annoying Boost warnings like these, but which don't seem to affect the build: /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:344:0 /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:344:9: warning: "BOOST_MPL_HAS_XXX_NO_EXPLICIT_TEST_FUNCTION" is not defined /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:357:0 /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:357:9: warning: "BOOST_MPL_HAS_XXX_NO_WRAPPED_TYPES" is not defined /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:386:0 /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:386:9: warning: "BOOST_MPL_HAS_XXX_NO_EXPLICIT_TEST_FUNCTION" is not defined /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:459:0 /opt/local/include/boost/mpl/has_xxx.hpp:459:8: warning: "BOOST_MPL_HAS_XXX_NEEDS_TEMPLATE_SFINAE" is not defined /opt/local/include/boost/detail/container_fwd.hpp:71:0 /opt/local/include/boost/detail/container_fwd.hpp:71:9: warning: "BOOST_CLANG" is not defined Next I ran into a few problems: I get a fatal error from nasm about unrecognized output format 'macho64', 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Boost was upgraded from @1.46.1_0 to @1.47.0_0 but this seems to have broken the build badly (many errors about random::rand48 being re-declared), so I had to revert back to 1.46. Safe to say, 1.47 should not be used until that's fixed. If you upgrade by accident, try "sudo port activate boost @1.46.1_0" or install it as needed. [*]And finally a linker error due to the above error in liblowlevel (but why would the build process continue?) 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I also think territory "fairness" should not be enforced by the game. In AoK some of the most challenging and fun maps where those where I had poor defense compared to other players, being "dealt a bad hand" so to speak, it made for some very epic games. This is mostly the case with random maps, ours don't have much variation yet but I hope to change that. In scenarios, it should be the map designer's responsibility to consider resource distribution and territory size. I don't know if it will be major, but the AI system can be considered very incomplete and subject to change (I didn't realize how much until I saw the Rootbot project and how it progressed). The main effect on AI in the short term would be slightly restricting where they can build, I guess this will be something like terrain passability which the AI already checks before building, only it may be a distinct concept - I'm not sure how many passability classes the pathfinder supports. Then the higher level goals of e.g. conquering territories, building new civil centres, are already a bit beyond our AIs which it seems use a simple attack/defend strategy. We may be adding diplomacy soon as well, and that will require even bigger changes to AI in my opinion: knowing who to attack, responding to diplomatic changes, giving/receiving tribute, etc.

That sounds like the flank formation, we do have that

Yeah, it was pretty epic, easily one of my favorite game soundtracks along with Myst/Riven Though I have to say, the 0 A.D. soundtrack is coming along quite nicely, and with live instruments!

BMP can be 16-bit, that's a pretty basic format isn't it? The files wouldn't be so large that compression is necessary, after all maps can only be 512x512. Support is a good question, I was using Photoshop CS and even it didn't support 16-bit TIFFs (you can get those when converting a 12 or 14-bit raw format digital image), but GIMP does support them. Not sure about PNGs.

Importing an image as a heightmap sounds very useful and easy to implement. While we're at it, we could add "export" for symmetry. Other applications (not necessarily games) support this and it's fairly intuitive for artists. Of course ideally they wouldn't need this, because Atlas would have most of the useful painting features of a basic image editor, but as an additional capability... Maybe make a Trac ticket for this so it doesn't get buried by other topics?

I think this is a great idea to implement at some point. Another useful concept for random maps is the ecotope, a collection of entities that occur within a given biome according to certain probabilities and constraints, but on a smaller level, say 16x16 tiles. Examples: "temperate forest", "temperate grassland", "tropical forest", "desert plains". The more of these that are defined, the more variation the random maps will have. The basic design would be generating high level strategic elements first (terrain, player positions, etc.), if the map will have multiple biomes do that next, then split the biomes into separate random ecotopes that match their terrain, and then finally place some POGs and other small elements. I like this better than the current piecemeal approach which is slow and hard to understand.

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