spectator optional?

[ddb_brutus]

Hi. some people manage to log in twice as spectators and players at the same time using virtual box. I played with AI to test it and it is really easy. I wish there was an option that doesn't allow spectators. I know it could hurt the game but double login cause a lot of lag, no need to mention the fact that double logins allow cheating. 

[Hannibal_Barca]

You can disable spectators in the options

Edit: also no need anything special, just a new window

Edited December 24, 2017 by Hannibal_Barca

[elexis]

Windows however does crash when two applications try to read from the same file, so it often crashes seemingly randomly when trying to connect in two windows.

[ddb_brutus]

hi elexis: I have no problems running two instances with all of the shadings using GPU pass through to cupa driver on Ubuntu.I run and VMware or Virtualbox on win10  I could even assign two different mouses and keyboard to each instance if I used Hackintosh or Linux as VirtualBox host. I run one instance as a virtual machine and one full screen. I can join the game with both. In the spectator instance in can select opponents from drop-down list and spy on his resources and population and in another instance I play the game. 

The nat config gets a bit trickier when I host with one of the instances, I have the "de-confuse" stun client path or use the proxy to forward the port since all instances run on the same computer but are doable even when I host and spectate. I won't share the details here for obvious reasons. It is probably too complicated for most of the players, but I am sure there are quite a few who bother to pull it off. I find it pathetic, just wanted to share my experience.

Edited December 24, 2017 by ddb_brutus
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[ddb_brutus]

4 hours ago, Hannibal_Barca said:

You can disable spectators in the options

Edit: also no need anything special, just a new window

Thank you Hannibal_Barca I found it now, I was expecting it match setup options.

[elexis]

44 minutes ago, ddb_brutus said:

hi elexis: I have no problems running two instances with all of the shadings using GPU pass through to cupa driver on Ubuntu.I run and VMware or Virtualbox on win10  I could even assign two different mouses and keyboard to each instance if I used Hackintosh or Linux as VirtualBox host. I run one instance as a virtual machine and one full screen. I can join the game with both. In the spectator instance in can select opponents from drop-down list and spy on his resources and population and in another instance I play the game. 

The nat config gets a bit trickier when I host with one of the instances, I have the "de-confuse" stun client path or use the proxy to forward the port since all instances run on the same computer but are doable even when I host and spectate. I won't share the details here for obvious reasons. It is probably too complicated for most of the players, but I am sure there are quite a few who bother to pull it off. I find it pathetic, just wanted to share my experience.

Much more trouble to achieve casual cheating than needed. It's technically impossible to solve, so I don't care much as a developer.

[ddb_brutus]

9 hours ago, elexis said:

Much more trouble to achieve casual cheating than needed. It's technically impossible to solve, so I don't care much as a developer.

HI elexis, maybe I was too technical when hinting all  of the possibilities. In reality, it doesn't take more than 10x enter press to install windows 7 in the box and probably require no more skill than setting up the game itself. 

I don't think you can do much about it except maybe add a "disable spectators" radio button next to the rated game option in the match setup.  have a nice one, B

[elexis]

F9, arrow up, enter, F9 :-P

But if we don't consider preparation, we can get down to 0 keystrokes too.

There is a 'disable spectator' button, but it's in the options. Someone was working on making that options page accessible from the gamesetup too to make it more transparent.