Realism mod (early beta)

[man_s_our]

hello fellow 0 A.D players. today I started the open beta testings stage for realism mod (Alpha 27). if anyone is interested in participating in testing the new features and reporting bugs feel free to download the mod from github repo and giving us feedbacks.

main intentions of this mod is:

increasing realism.

reducing micromanagement by increasing units' autonomy.

giving more advantages for players that can do good tactics.

for now, I need more tests for the separate horse and rider entities. try it through ordering any unit to turret any horse (even if owned by gaia or enemies) and report any unwanted behavior.

it also has hunger and thirst mechanisms which needs few tweaks but usable with no problem for human entities.

the resources mechanism now changed. instead of being able to put the resources in a very far storehouse and immediately use them to build some building, the builders will need to carry the needed resources to build (which requires the resources or storehouse be closer for faster building). todo: adding workshops for delayed converting of a resource to another (like using forgery to convert metal to swords).

 

[Grautvornix]

6 hours ago, man_s_our said:

the resources mechanism now changed. instead of being able to put the resources in a very far storehouse and immediately use them to build some building, the builders will need to carry the needed resources to build (which requires the resources or storehouse be closer for faster building). todo: adding workshops for delayed converting of a resource to another (like using forgery to convert metal to swords).

 

I  have to admitt I do like this a lot! Reminds me of my past playing settlers IV (and before) where resources must be available nearby where they are needed. Will download the mod and try it.

[man_s_our]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Entity parent="template_structure_economic_storehouse_vegan_store">
  <Identity>
    <Civ>gaia</Civ>
    <SpecificName>vegan store</SpecificName>
  </Identity>
  <VisualActor>
    <Actor>structures/gaia/farmstead.xml</Actor>
  </VisualActor>
</Entity>

for adding the storehouses supported by realism mod you need to update the builder template (if you downloaded the repo before this post) and then, for every civ folder you add xml files like this (for now the available templates are for vegan, meat, water, wood, stone and metal).

builder.xml

[man_s_our]

@zozio32 I found the meatsupplies error was due to me forgetting to upload interfaces patch.

try again and give me the feedback.

[man_s_our]

the Turretable component was updated too and without the update the horse/rider mechanics will be broken

[zozio32]

1 hour ago, man_s_our said:

@zozio32 I found the meatsupplies error was due to me forgetting to upload interfaces patch.

try again and give me the feedback.

ok, make sense. I had seen that there was no MeatSupplies interface

Edited December 14, 2023 by zozio32

[man_s_our]

latest updates to the repo:

added the patched gaia.xml that fixes the errors and the resources json files and units' auras related to pushing rams.

also added the patched treasure template that turn treasures into resource stocks and fix the errors.

removed the error messages meant for debugging from builder component and fixed a bug in unit ai component.

now the game should start without errors. but we need more exploration.

 

[zozio32]

hello, the try went a bit further.   I got to see that starting point, send women to get berries, soldier to wood, cav to chicken, and then crash. I am attaching the log

interestinglog.html mainlog.html system_info.txt userreport_hwdetect.txt

[man_s_our]

9 hours ago, zozio32 said:

hello, the try went a bit further.   I got to see that starting point, send women to get berries, soldier to wood, cav to chicken, and then crash. I am attaching the log

interestinglog.html 26.75 kB · 1 download mainlog.html 87.92 kB · 0 downloads system_info.txt 9.24 kB · 0 downloads userreport_hwdetect.txt 13.93 kB · 0 downloads

is this error reproducible?

the error looks like being resulted from TerritoryDecay.js which I didn't touch

[man_s_our]

I updated the components:

Unit AI

Formation

Turretable

to fix the problems of:

the horse roam away of the rider while he's gathering

add ability of using stances while riding horses

add support for formations when riding horses.

[man_s_our]

this skirmish map is good for testing the water resource and riding horse

well_horses.js well_test.pmp well_test.xml

Edited December 15, 2023 by man_s_our

[zozio32]

2 hours ago, man_s_our said:

is this error reproducible?

the error looks like being resulted from TerritoryDecay.js which I didn't touch

ok, I'll try again without changing anything

[zozio32]

On 15/12/2023 at 9:56 AM, zozio32 said:

ok, I'll try again without changing anything

yes, it seems that I am getting the same error again. There is again a TerritotyDecay issue.  

If I lunch the game without any mode activated, the errors is not showing, so it is defenitely related to realism.mod as it is on my computer

[man_s_our]

1 hour ago, zozio32 said:

yes, it seems that I am getting the same error again. There is again a TerritotyDecay issue.  

If I lunch the game without any mode activated, the errors is not showing, so it is defenitely related to realism.mod as it is on my computer

what map are you using?

and what's the game configurations?

and does the result change when adding this to interfaces folder?

TerritoryDecay.js

[zozio32]

still the same thing unfortunately, even with the file added to the interface folder

 

the map is "Acropolis Bay (2)".    Default game setting

interestinglog.html mainlog.html system_info.txt userreport_hwdetect.txt

[man_s_our]

On 18/12/2023 at 11:10 PM, zozio32 said:

still the same thing unfortunately, even with the file added to the interface folder

 

the map is "Acropolis Bay (2)".    Default game setting

interestinglog.html 23.27 kB · 3 downloads mainlog.html 84.69 kB · 2 downloads system_info.txt 9.24 kB · 0 downloads userreport_hwdetect.txt 13.93 kB · 1 download

try updating the mod

[zozio32]

I'll do, but in January.  I'll be off from today, and away from the gaming computer

[zozio32]

HI, I did tried again yesterday, after updating the mod. SAme results