PieLam
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15 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:
Did try selecting units and then garrisoning them via the icon?
No, I haven't. I wasn't aware of an icon... I'm visually impaired. it's very possible that I didn't see it, or maybe I seen it & didn't know what it was. It wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.
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I'm using A-26 on Ubuntu 20.06 - on a ~5 yr old PC....
I've tried:
- selecting the units to be garrisoned
- CTRL + right-click on a building (just on stone towers & as per 0ad documentation))
- CTRL + left-click on a building
- shift + right-click on a building
- shift + left-click on a building
None of this works... I can only garrison units by setting the rally point to the tower & training some unit(s).
If I ungarrison by pressing U, that works, but these same units won't garrison anymore.
I have to train another batch of units & be sure that the rally point is set to the stone tower.Even though I'm holding the CTRL key down, if I left-click, the units are no longer selected, rather the tower now is selected.
Even though I'm holding the CTRL key down, if I right-click the units go to the point where I clicked, usually behind the tower.
What am I doing wrong???
interestinglog.html mainlog.html system_info.txt userreport_hwdetect.txt
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OOPS, never mind, I found it... Sorry...
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Another question: I see other posts that have been edited yet I don't see an option to do this. How can I edit my posts?
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7 hours ago, Stan` said:
You need to drag the files on the "Drag files here to attach" if that makes sense.
No, not to me... since they're in a hidden folder the files aren't accessible by "choose files". When I tried to drag the log files, I got a server error. I figured the error was because the server couldn't access the log file since the're in a hidden dir, So I copied the files to another non-hidden folder and BAM the files U/Led with no prob.
I have a question though: Shouldn't the log files be the ones that are written on start-up (sound not working)? The files below are from the last time I played 0ad (sound workiig).
userreport_hwdetect.txt system_info.txt interestinglog.html mainlog.html
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14 hours ago, Loki1950 said:
no need to copy them try opening the html files with your web browser
That is what I tried to do. (I tried 4 times) Each time I'd get the access error.
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5 minutes ago, PieLam said:
ARRRG! Now I have another issue (the hits just keep on coming!
) When I try to attach the files, I click on "choose files..." (4 times) I only get as far as home/snap/0ad/592 . I'm guessing it's because of the hidden dir. How can I get around this? I tried to drag the files, didn't work for me.
Do I need to copy the 2 .HTML files to another location?
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On 14/01/2023 at 12:09 AM, Norse_Harold said:
Yes, the place that you installed 0ad does make a difference. If you're using a Snap of an application then it's sandboxed, which can sometimes interfere with the app's access to hardware such as graphics or sound.
You said that you installed 0ad from Ubuntu's repository, then it's not a a Snap. But, from your screenshot it seems like 0ad might be installed as an app. Anyway, you might have both installed. Enjoy the choice. :-) It means you need to be more aware of what exactly you're starting whenever you start 0ad. You can try viewing the .desktop file (the shortcut to the app) as a text file to see the path that it's starting.
/home/yourusername/snap/0ad/current
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/home/yourusername/.config/0ad/logs
Attach as many of those files as you can, with priority of mainlog.html, interestinglog.html, system_info.txt, and userreport_hwdetect.txt
First of all, I apologize for this long lapse. I merely had given up on this issue. Well not completely given up, just decided to put it on the back burner for now. Then a while ago, while re-reading this thread, I found those 4 files in the home/snap/0ad/592/.config/0ad/logs ... I remember looking there before, but I stopped at /.config OOPS! I remember dismissing /0ad. In hindsight, I shouldn't have. That (incorrect dir structure) is mostly why I decided to forget about this whole issue.
Anyway, finding the 4 files is sort of bitter sweet. Because while I was able to read both of the .TXT files with no problem, I could not read neither of the two .HTML files. I checked the permission properties. My name was the owner as you can see below:
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I Assumed 0AD was a snap because 0AD's directory structure is that of a snap. I don't really KNOW what a snap app is....
From your explanation though. it sounds like I can assume that it might a good long while before this issue is fixed?
ARRRG! Now I have another issue (the hits just keep on coming!
) When I try to attach the files, I click on "choose files..." (4 times) I only get as far as home/snap/0ad/592 . I'm guessing it's because of the hidden dir. How can I get around this? I tried to drag the files, didn't work for me.
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On 12/01/2023 at 9:57 AM, Norse_Harold said:
You tested SuperMarioKart, but the advice is to try with SuperTuxKart. Anyway, games besides 0ad are free to change the sound systems that they use, so they aren't guaranteed to be using OpenAL. You can look at the source code or the library dependencies of the game to verify whether it's actually using OpenAL.
...Sorry, I mistyped the app's name I did actually run SuperTuxKart. I even rechecked it. No issues with it
Also follow the rest of the advice for troubleshooting sound in 0ad in the FAQ. (Scroll down to the answer to "No sound, no audio, or 0 A.D. is the only app with sound."
...I tried as best that I could. Some of it was confusing to me...
Also, are you running 0ad from a sandbox, such as Snap, AppImage or Flatpak? If so, any testing of other OpenAL apps needs to be done in the same sandbox.
...I'm not sure about this. I ASSume Snap since FireFox (which is what I use, exclusively) & FF is now a Snap app. I installed 0ad, by D/L'ing it from Ubuntu's repository, I'm only pretty sure, anyway. Does that make a difference?
What kind of cable is used to connect your computer to your monitor? Examples are DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, or VGA.
...I use DVI.
You can attach complete logs from 0ad, tell us what tests you did, and connect to IRC for specific troubleshooting help
... I attached a screenshot of my /snap/current/ folder. As you can see, there are no logs or config files. I'm obviously looking in the wrong location, aren't I?
Where would this data be located?
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I apologize if this isn't the right thing to do ....I just don't know or how else to proceed.
I originally submitted this sound error via a new ticket. It was "#6673 new defect"
I received a few replies to this ticket. Below is the original posting:
I'm using Ubuntu 22.04
When starting 0AD for the first time & after a power-up, 0AD loads fine, but there's no sound. Sound checked OK in other apps.
The first time this happened, I uninstalled 0AD then re-installed to Alpha 26. NO CHANGE.
Every time I do this, I exit the game then restart it. 0AD then has sound. I get no other issues. I used the Snap path to find the config file but even after a long search, I could not find any LOG file.
I attached the config file.
One reply suggested I try an OpenAL app:
"Since 0 A.D. basically outsources sound processing to OpenAL"
So, since it was already installed, I ran the OpenAL app called SuperMarioKart. It ran perfectly, sound OK, graphics OK too.
How can I fix this no sound in 0ad issue?
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14 hours ago, sarcoma said:
wiggle the connector in and out while playing audio
Thanx, good idea, I'll try that! Hopefully that's all it is.
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23 hours ago, tuk0z said:
RIP speakers :/ You may be able to plug a headset if your computer has the appropriate Jack?
Thanx! I thought they just plugged in the same line-in jack (???) Is that not right?
23 hours ago, tuk0z said:Good job man! OK so you have a working swap
means 0 A.D. really should just slow down the system first, progressively for a few minutes. My tip if you want to try it: when you feel that slowdown, don't wait. Save your game, exit 0 A.D. and restart after a few seconds (with a SSD) or ~20 sec (with a HDD). And if you have motivation to help us understand and tell you for sure the reason why it locks up, try running 'free -m' somewhere between when you feels it goes slow and you close the game.
Thanx. Good to know about the swap thing.
Not sure if any of this matters or not, but JIC:
The Linux PC has one big, to me, drive a 1TB SSD. I didn't want a complicated config on Linux, since I wanted a smooth & easy install. BTW, this simple config was achieved. For a noob like me, I was somewhat proud.
The Win PC OTOH, was installed with a sole 120GB SSD. A few days after the Win10 install, I added 4 traditional HDs. I ended up having a boot SSD & a total of 4TB storage on traditional/mechanical HDs.
Both PCs have AMD CPUs. Both have GeForce GPUs. The GPUs aren't the very cool hi-end kind nor are they the very low-end neither.
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10 minutes ago, Nescio said:
A24 is the development version; if you want it, see https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructions
(Because it contains the entire revision history and everything, it's quite large, currently approaching 30 GB.)
Thanx, but no thanx...
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On 1/13/2020 at 6:29 PM, tuk0z said:
PieLam would you mind to specify when does the game locks up on your Linux box? For if right upon starting the game would have a super different cause than, say, upon a 2 hours long match. Also last time I opened a Windows forum some users had various kind of trouble and other not. May not make a generality of your own case
Well, since I've been using mostly the Win version, a lot of time has passed. I'd say several months. If my feeble memory serves though, the lock-ups of 0ad on my Linux PC never occurred at start-up, rather, at seemingly random times during game-play. Sometimes in the early stage of a game. but mostly after 15-20 minutes or so???
During that period of time, I was still new to 0ad and therefore played in the Sandbox mode. I remember the AI attacking me even though I had set the Sandbox mode sometimes. It depended on either the map or the civ I chose.
Yesterday, I went to my Linux PC and updated 0ad, at least I think, (forgot to note what version the original was). The version I DL'ed is A23 not A24 like I was hoping for.
I also discovered my speakers stopped working. (they've been on the fritz for a good long while) so I stopped playing after a few minutes. I was wanting to test 0ad's behavior, to see if it would lock-up. Since my speakers stopped working, it made me realize just how dependent I am in this game's audio. Something else I'll have to deal with now!
On 1/13/2020 at 6:29 PM, tuk0z said:A start would be to copy/paste the output of this command on your Linux OS:
free -mOK, here you go:
pie@pie-5:~$ free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 7875 740 4918 16 2216 6824
Swap: 2047 0 2047
pie@pie-5:~$Don't think this tells you much, does it? Aside from the computer name, of course.
Sorry this took so long...I'll try to do better...
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Hi guys!
First of all just a quick thanx for all the provided links & info. Not only is it very appreciated & welcomed, but will be very helpful, thanx again! I've become pleasantly overwhelmed by all these great contributions...
Now, I have another non-0ad question about this forum. I've noticed a few quoted replies that show the quotes in sections with your comment below the quote. It sort of looks like multiple quotes. Anyway, when I tried doing this, my way, it wouldn't work. Can you clue me in as to the proper way?
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I didn't mean for this thread to become a Linux VS Win thread. Both of these OSes have their merits & their pluses & minuses . I was merely trying to express that while 0ad would lock-up my Linux PC, the Win version of 0ad on my Win PC would not. It may not be be, but I now suspect a swap file issue, maybe not though. I don't know all this deep, to me, technical stuff nor do I have the time anymore needed to learn about these types of things.
I read somewhere that the Linux OS is not solely for the super tech savvy folks. While I'm sure there is some truth to this, I can't say that I agree entirely. I refer to my issue with the Linux version of 0ad. Plain & simple: as much as I hate it, the Linux version of 0ad is not out-of-the-box ready while the Win version is.
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33 minutes ago, Stan` said:I don't use Linux regularly. I'd like to but the time I have to take to set something up kinda discourage me.
I was a Capitole du Libre a french FLOSS event, and two students came with some school provided laptops. One had arch and the other windows. The arch one did perform better.
It's rare to come across to identical computers (Except with Mac) so I didn't have the opportunity to replicate it. I guess I could ask people with thinkpads (A lot of people in the Open Source community have those) to try.
Maybe that was lucky, but I don't think so.
I know what you mean. Time, for me, theses days is a huge factor. I mean, I have tons of medias & miscellaneous outdated hardware from my previous MS years (41+ years of crud). Sure, most of it is obsolete, outdated, & worthless, but I like to keep it around, if just for grins & giggles, anyway. I guess even though I need to dump it all and get rid of all this stuff, I just want to hold on to it all. I struggle between the Linux & Win PCs all the time. I remember dreaming/ wishing for the capabilities we have today with PCs.
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8 minutes ago, Nescio said:
Out of curiosity, which Linux distribution do you use?
It is the mostly plain vanilla Ubuntu 18.0.4 Cinnamon. I've added a few things to the original install, but not a lot.
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14 hours ago, Stan` said:
From what I've seen it's sometimes faster on linux on the same computer specs. Same computer arch vs windows + 15fps
Just sometimes?
My Linux PC CPU is around 200 MHz faster than my Win PC, a slightly bigger but older video card. Overall, a slightly better PC, IMO. Both use 8Gb DDR3 RAM. My Linux PC's motherboard is Asus, the Win PC has Gigabyte. Both boot from SSDs. There are lots of minor differences between the 2 PCs with the Linux PC having slightly better hardware.
That +15fps sounds very interesting!
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15 hours ago, sarcoma said:
0ad should run just as smooth in linux as in windows. It should only hang the computer if you run low on ram and start swapping, less than 4GB ram, such as alt tabbing 2 memory hogs like 0ad and firefox on low ram.
I believe should is the operative word here. Both the Linux PC & the Win PC have 8gb RAM, both have plenty of free drive space. So I wouldn't think that space would be a problem???
All I know is that 0ad locks-up on my Linux PC & not on my Win PC. Should I have to accommodate & learn how to manage a swap partition in order to be able to run 0ad on Linux? I don't need to with the Win. version.
I would rather use my Linux PC for 0ad especially since it is slightly faster & has a better monitor, but I don't want to deal with the lock-ups & jump through a bunch of hoops.
Please don't take this the wrong way , I love Linux. I just don't agree with having to jump through hoops when I shouldn't have to... Hello developers! Yes, I'd like my cake & eat it too.
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Hi all,
Just need a little help & some clarifications with my gaming in 0ad...Background & other useless info: (feel free to skip this paragraph)
A few years back, I enjoyed & played Microsoft's Age Of Empires. I started with AOE I, it was my first exposure to RTS gaming,. I fell in love with it. I eventually acquired the expansion pack for AOE I, then, later, AOE II & its expansion pack. After that & after losing interest in Windows, I migrated to Linux & until I discovered 0ad, I thought my RTS gaming was over. I thought "oh well, Linux is worthy." Eventually, I discovered 0ad on Linux & liked it very much, but my Linux system kept locking-up whenever I would play 0ad, always at random times and only when playing 0ad. I kept looking for upgrades, figuring the lock-ups were occurring because 0ad was still in alpha. After a few months of the lock-ups & waiting for a less buggy version, I decided to try the Windows version of 0ad on another PC that has Win 10 on it. Well, no more lock-ups on the Win version, I was once again hooked! Understandably, my 0ad game playing style, in many ways, mirrors the same style as in AOE...My main reason for this post:
So that I could learn 0ad better, I began with Sandbox mode, then moved on to Very Easy mode and now I'm trying to learn even more by conquering the Easy mode. There are many things I don't quite understand yet such as territory boundaries. Of course, I understand some of it by now, but I'm sure there are other things about this that I don't know. The thing that bugs me the most though, & I can't find any info on 0ad strategy & game play & the fact that the enemy can & does take ownership/control over my buildings...This occurs more predominately in the Easy mode & not so much in the Very Easy & Sandbox modes. So, I'm pretty sure this phenomenon will escalate in the higher difficulty modes. How does one stop this or prevent this? Is there tips & tricks for 0ad? I'm sure there is, but where?Comments & other 'fun facts'
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I read some of this forum today & yesterday & learned a few tidbits, can't wait to try some of these techniques. I also read about someone else getting fed-up with Win & going to Linux. I can certainly understand this & I even applaud this too, but as much as going back to Win saddens me, I feel that Linux is more for the more technical savvy folks especially as far as gaming is concerned. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an avid gamer. Merely just a long-time enthusiast with gaming interest. I probably would have become a gamer years ago, but my skill set prevents me from it. In 2002, I had an aneurysm (a type of stroke.) Although I can still use my PC, if barely, my skills have diminished greatly. My biggest obstacle though is with my poor vision. Its my main reason for loving RTS so much. I tried First Person Shooters (FPS) and the like, but I'm way too slow for those types of games anymore, but RTS is more forgiving. Oh well, such is life... I'm over 60 (61, yikes) now & still love PCs. A love affair that began long ago, in my late high school years, circa 1974! (graduated in '76) A LOT has changed since then except my love of PCs...More thoughts:
There are lots of knowledgeable folks on here! Its the main reason for this post. I used to run Win 7. Thanks to "howtogeek.com", I applied a free upgrade to Win 10 after Microsoft's initial free upgrade offer had expired. I thought my free upgrade option was long gone, but it wasn't thanks to "howtogeek.com"! I was then happy with Linux anyway, so losing the free upgrade option from MS didn't much matter. Still qualified for a free upgrade though? Curiosity got the best of me, I decided to give it a whirl. After applying the free upgrade, I decided to try 0ad for Win. Now, I'm sorta glad I did! Just hate that I had to go back to Win. I'm a big fan of online security even though this post would probably indicate otherwise. IMO Win 10's security/privacy leaves a lot to be desired...
Feel free to comment on anything...(I won't be offended)
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Garrisoning not working for me
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I found the icon & tried it. It works perfectly, THANX!!
Now, I'll look at the hotkey defs.
I didn't think my expensive "Razor" keyboard would be incompatible?
I sure hope not.