yahia
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Yeah, you shouldn't have a problem finding a decent, cheap PCI-e graphics card that works with Linux. Years ago, I upgraded my old computer from a GeForce4 Ti (pre-shaders) to a GeForce 7600 (one of their last to support AGP) and it really helped game performance, even though the overall system became too unstable to use anymore.
cards Evga E-geforce 7600gt 256 mb Gddr3 or Nvidia Geforce 7600 Gt Chipset Gv-nx76t256d-r are the two for sale at low cost here , it is a good choice one of the two I must get?, thanks.
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THANKS Loki
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Hmm, it doesn't list PCI express (PCIe), maybe they didn't include one on that motherboard, though it's advertised as a feature of the chipset... Care to open the case and take a look at the PCI slots? This image shows the different types side by side: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#/media/File:PCIExpress.jpg
Yes Ben I have 3 free PCI slots, two PCI Express ×16 and one PCI Express ×4, I see. Must I burn my computer Ben?
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of course if you have in mind some specific vodeo card to advice me I'll be glad, he same any recomendation about software, thanks Ben.
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That is an integrated graphics card from the Via chipset. For some reason, Debian has chosen or defaulted to a software driver for you.
You may have a few different options. First, you need a better driver, and surprisingly there is a project called OpenChrome that works to develop open source drivers for your Via. If you want to try installing the driver, it's available as a Debian package: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome. I don't know what performance you will get with that, probably not worse than software rendering, but it might not work at all or it might have a lot of bugs (it's always a risk with drivers). I'm no expert with Linux drivers.
The next option would be to buy a better discrete graphics card. According to this page, you have a PCI express slot, which is good - that would let you buy just about any graphics card from the past 7-8 years (I wouldn't spend much though, and you would have to check your power supply's max output). Please post the full output of running "lspci" to confirm this.
Hi Ben, in fact I was looking for a better driver in openchrome when I had the problem in Mint with cinnamon, and later to improve the performance of video in Debian, but just as you said, it have a lot of bugs (the instalations of some packages of opencrome broken Xfce i.e) I think the better solution will be to buy a NVidia card, Im almost sure I can get one (oldie) .
the output of lspci is:
yahia@yahia:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
00:00.6 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Security Device
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Device 5337 (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07)
00:10.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0)
00:10.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0)
00:10.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0)
00:10.3 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0)
00:10.4 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/8251 Ultra VLINK Controller
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 7c)
00:13.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge
00:13.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [s3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10)
I think it have no solution or at least a simple solution in the way of configuration, but Im very outdated about Linux, (for 10 years I left linux and I reinstall it 6 monts ago), my previous linux was a Slackware 8, in 2003 more or less, in other computer of course
Im very intrested in 0AD, it looks very the best strategic game anytime, I'm very impressed with the civilizations, is magnific, you can imagine Im teacher in history, a non good in history game can be so bored, but the work in 0AD is good, the shields of civilizations i.e. I know some simbols, and are, in fact simbols from the right people, the eagleof the Visigoths is that eagle, fantastic, I spect when I'll play the game I'll be very happy, congratullations your work in programing it is wonderfull.
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Dear Ben:Are you running in a VMWare virtual machine? That wouldn't be a good idea on your system. In any case, it's using software rendering, which will be extremely slow even on brand new computers. If you're not using a VM, you need to find better graphics drivers.
What is the output of this command:
lspci | grep VGA
I dont install any virtual machine. On the software rendering, it may be a problem, when in the past I tried cinnamon, it shows an alert: "without hardware graphic aceleleration,,,,,"; it was in a previous instalation of Linux Mint, and in that configuration, the probles was obviously, specially in video, (i.e. youtube) now I have Debian with Xfce, and I see a good work in the video speed.
The output of lspci | grep VGA is :
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [s3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
do you think is possible to play the game with this hardware?
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My friend Ben: perhaps you know, the imports in Argentine are closed, so, we can buy hardware, except wich are in stocks of vendors here, if I have any solution to can play 0ad it will be great.
By the other side, I understand you are developer of 0ad, I wish to colaborate, with translation and I'm teacher in history, I can write historical information on all civilizations of the game, if it is requiered.
Thanks, Juan M. Barreiro Arater
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Hello Ben, yes here is the file:
(generated 2015-06-01 09:18:12 UTC)
OS : Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae (#1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-2
4))
CPU : i686, Intel Pentium Dual E2140 @ 1.60GHz (1x2x1), 799.99 MHz
Memory : 942 MiB; 109 MiB free
Graphics Card : VMware, Inc. Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
OpenGL Drivers : 3.0 Mesa 10.4.2; OpenGL 3.0 Mesa 10.4.2
Video Mode : 1600x900:32
Sound Card : Unknown
Sound Drivers : Unknown
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SMBIOS:
Thatś all, I dont understand this file... do you think is my hardware or my configuration? Very thanks.
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Can you post your system_info.txt from the game's log folder (see this page)? That should give us an idea of whether your system can run 0 A.D. well. Another thing that might help is a profile capture with Shift+F11 when you notice the game is very slow. Please attach those files in a reply.
Hi Ben, I can not see the log file of the game, Im very newbie in Linux I think, the only two files of the game I found are in /usr/games, are 0ad and pyrogenesis:
here this are:
0ad:
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root@yahia:/usr/games# more 0ad
#!/bin/sh
pyrogenesis=$(which pyrogenesis 2> /dev/null)
if [ -x "$pyrogenesis" ] ; then
"$pyrogenesis" "$@"
elif [ -x /usr/games/pyrogenesis ] ; then
# Fallback in case /usr/games is not in $PATH; see #679033 and LP: #1380737
/usr/games/pyrogenesis "$@"
else
echo "Error: pyrogenesis not found in ($PATH)"
exit 1
fi
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and pyrogenesis is a compilad file.
in the game I dont see any message about graphics, simply runs almost frozen, any action is executed more or less 20 sec. later I do the order with the mouse, I think my video card is too old, it must be the reason, I was looking my system, but cant find any log file, when I have a new computer, or video card at least, may be I'll can play.
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My problem with 0AD is simple: is impossible to play because the game works very very slow, perhaps it is for my video card (VIA S3), previously I had problems with Cinnamon, currently Im working with Debian 8 and XFce, but in this configuration, with wine, AoE II runs perfect, so I think is possible to improve 0ad to run faster, or not?
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I just buy a Nvidia Geforce 7600 Gt Chipset Gv-nx76t256d-rh, I hope get it in 3 days, then I told you how works all, really thanks.