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21 minutes ago, Sennacherib said:

Thracians and Scythians were represented by other stereotypes. I do not deny the fact that a Celtic warrior could have been naked, but a stereotype of the celtic warrior was created around few testimonies. Unexplained testimonials.

In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start  naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.

I don't mind if the adretos begin shirtless but give them a pants and shoes and remove the cape.

sorry it is in french. you can see at 19 min, the different gallic warriors, the guy with the basic shield would be a better addition to the game to replace the current naked dude with a cape.

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14 hours ago, Genava55 said:

I disagree that it is a stereotypical barbarian depiction. The Thracians and the Scythians weren't depicted regularly as naked by the Greeks. Nor the Germans and the Dacians by the Romans. Only Celts have been depicted consistently like this.

Above, I showed you different evidences from Etruscans, Greeks and Romans but also from native Celtiberians and Venetians.

In addition, we have at least two accounts mentioning Celtic warriors fighting naked. Even if the Greeks and the Romans exaggerated their depictions, it is difficult to dismiss all those evidences.

In the game, there is only one unit naked. Other units start bare-chested and gain body armor with experience. 

Thracians and Scythians were represented by other stereotypes. I do not deny the fact that a Celtic warrior could have been naked, but a stereotype of the celtic warrior was created around few testimonies. Unexplained testimonials.

In O.a.d, there is the adretos, the marcaros, who start  naked and the briton marcaros loses his pant when his level increases. Only the fanatic should be totally naked.

I don't mind if the adretos begin shirtless but give them a pants and shoes and remove the cape.

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21 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Modern reinterpretations of modern scholars, or is there really any first-hand evidence?

there are few evidences of the celts nudity. Polybus has related the story of the naked the Gaesetae warriors (he noted that the other gauls were dressed), but they were mercenaries, and there are no proofs that all the warriors were naked. it could have been only an act of defiance, not understood by the romans.
And for the Galatian (statue of the dying galatian) like I said, nudity for the greeks had a special symbolic, even if some celtic warriors could have been naked for various reason, it can't be accepted as a generality.
And Diodorus Siculus is not a reliable source
it is not a modern reinterpretation, but too often there is little questioning of greek and roman writings because they were written by greeks and romans.. it is like the fact that the Thracians would have had the Red hair. They made a generalization.
And these writings (arts in general) were not for us but for their respective populations, and the vision of the barbarians was written in this sense

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1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

1. Not all the Celts are "naked" in the game. This is an exaggeration.

2. It is not that rare to fight naked or bare-chested in ancient times.

3. There are evidences for the Celts:

 

In fact the greek representations of the celts are not accurate at all. their art represent the vision of them through their own culture. A naked barbare is a barbare idealized and stereotyped. Don't forget that nudity for the greeks was very symbolic. I read tons of book about the celts/gauls/celtiberian etc and the nudity in fight is not seriously considered a certainty

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1 hour ago, vladislavbelov said:

Could you share your logs (system_info.txt, userreport_hwdetect.txt, mainlog.html, interestinglog.html)? You might find paths to them here: https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/GameDataPaths . 

yes, sure.

 

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Please for the next release give clothes to the celts. they weren't naked at all. I could even say that the basic adretos naked with only a cape, seems ridiculous.

I have lag with A26 (none with A25), especially when i play with the Han civ. I tried all the available settings, I can't get rid of this lag. Map 2 vs 2 (Me + 3 AI), very large map. The chinese buildings are very nice, but some of them are too similar (houses and the storage building -don't know the real name in english)

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i found the way to disable this feature

 

 

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"Formations can now be selected as a whole with one click, making them more of a “battalion” than before. Note that this behavior can be adjusted in the options. Use (civ-specific) standards."

I have a problem with this feature, i use ctrl+a number to manage my groups of soldiers, and when needed I like to pick 1/2/3 or 4 soldiers from a group to building something or to repare a captured building. Now each time that I want to pick 1 soldier the whole group is selected, how can I change that? There is nothing in the option.

 

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4 hours ago, Player of 0AD said:

Hi

Uncapturable towers would be a nightmare. Its very good that they can be captured, so you can easily get rid of them. Imagine your opponents to spam iberian towers everywhere, you'd need to destroy all of them.

Rams can be destroyed by basic swordsmen rather quickly. Or even spearmen, women...

i destroy all of them, from time to time a turret is captured by my soldiers, but it is involuntary :p 3 or 4 dudes in a tower can block the capture of this tower for a long time. (and kill too many soldiers). the capture system seems borked sometimes, even an empty building can be impossible to capture even for 30 or 40 soldiers.

yes, I know, but AI doesn't know that, this part of the code could be improved.

I don't play against humans.

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3 hours ago, Sevda said:

We should improve the AI instead. Capturing towers is a great part of games with humans. The bonus against ships is definitely recommend: ships are too OP and the naval system is broken.

yes sure, it is an option. My main concern is the ability for the AI to handle effectively the captured towers, because from times to times it doesn't try to destroy or recapture the captured towers.

Ships are not really OP, even infantry can destoy them, but ships are not efficient against other ships and the towers are not really efficient against them. BTW the team has created a very good AI which use in a very good way the ships (fights and transport). AI uses strategies, it is impressive.

Make melee units before it's too late. Any melee can damage rams quickly. Normal humans never attack with 6 rams, instead they push with 140 units. I would recommend you to mass produce sword cavalry and any other melee units. Ranged units do almost no damage to rams.

I personnaly don't have problems to destroy them, my observation was for the AI, which has difficulties to destroy them. I don't play against humans so I don't know what they do or not

Gaesatae is the 0ad special rush unit which is designed to deliver a quick blow to farmers or cavalry. It is based on a few drunken Gaul warriors who decided to go naked into battle, but definitely not mimicking the main army.

they can keep the fanatics naked, but please they should give clothes to the other warriors. the gauls invented the gallic helmet used by the romans, they deserve at least  to wear clothes, celts invented chainmail, so they deverse to use it :p (they used also padded fabric breastplate)

btw, i don't play against humans, all my observations concern only the AI. I played all the AOE (not the last one) and I must say that the 0ad AI is very good. But some civs seem less efficient, the athenians for example (military), but it is not a huge problem.

 

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hi, first of all i enjoy very much this new release, thx btw for this awesome game.

celts (all of them):

In my opnion, celts shouldn't be naked or half naked: talmoris, adretos, marcaros, essedon

the Gaesatae don't represent all the warriors, 90% of them wore a full equipment: chainmaill, bronze helmet, and clothes.

their architectures are not very accurate too, but it doesn't need to be accurate at 100%. Gauls had buildings with 2 floors for example.

towers:

they shouldn't be captured, because from time to times AI has difficulties to handle captured towers on his territory. And as a pure defensive building, it is more interesting of having to destroy them. And, they should have a bonus against ships.

rams:

they are too difficult to destroy when you have only basic units, AI can attack with 4,5 or 6 rams, and there is almost nothing to do for avoiding the destruction of all the buildings. Rams have too many HP (without the research of the tech)