Faction: Kazhars

[Radiotraining]

Let me introduce: the Kazhars Khaganate! 

The idea was kick-started by a little conversation with @ivicok and I think they may be an interesting choice worth exploring with a dedicated thread 

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Radiotraining

[Radiotraining]

 

[myou5e]

On 17/01/2022 at 11:15 AM, Radiotraining said:

 

Very Interesting Video. Still, it was hard to see who they were ethnically. The migration of Jews and the conversion of nobles doesn't tell us much about the actual people, just the official policy of the Rulers.

[Lion.Kanzen]

It's weird that they did that.

The Jewish religion is not missionary.

5 minutes ago, myou5e said:

The migration of Jews and the conversion of nobles doesn't tell us much about the actual people, just the official policy of the Rulers

Where did these Jews come from?

Persia?

Byzantine Lands?

The Jews were dispersed from the Babylonian captivity.

[myou5e]

1 minute ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

It's weird that they did that.

The Jewish religion is not missionary.

Where did these Jews come from?

Persia?

Byzantine Lands?

The Jews were dispersed from the Babylonian captivity.

You are right, it's not missionary at all. But converting nobles does have practical material value for their people as a whole. So it is not surprising.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Just now, myou5e said:

You are right, it's not missionary at all. But converting nobles does have practical material value for their people as a whole. So it is not surprising.

The Jewish religion has strict rules for Gentiles.(non Jews)

I am not an expert on Judaism after the 4th century.

They compiled new rabbinical rules after the destruction of the temple.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-babylonian-jewish-community

 

[myou5e]

2 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

The Jewish religion has strict rules for Gentiles.(non Jews)

I am not an expert on Judaism after the 4th century.

They compiled new rabbinical rules after the destruction of the temple.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-babylonian-jewish-community

 

Just like the Pope would not condemn the Kings for certain doctrines or practices which are inconsistent, for political reasons, I would expect Rabbis to be somewhat selective of what requirements they had for others especially when they could gain power by being selective. This is just practical reality of things we see that any religion can and is used for political purposes, just as it seems to be in the case of the leaders who used Judaism to form a distinctive character against the Christians and Muslims. (This doesn't say anything about the truth of the religions)

[Lion.Kanzen]

There are likely to be cases of admixture and intermarriage.

In rabbinical laws this seems prohibited, not so in the Tanakh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism#:~:text=The 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

Source: Enlace Judío México

Notably, the Khazars responded to the dual courtship of the Christian and Islamic empires by making the strategic decision to adopt neither of their religions but to convert to Judaism instead. This decision suggests that the strategic thinking of the Khazars extended far beyond geography and trade.

 

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[AIEND]

21 分钟前，Lion.Kanzen 说：

资料来源：墨西哥犹太链接

值得注意的是，可萨人对基督教和伊斯兰帝国的双重求爱做出了战略决定，即不接受他们的任何一种宗教，而是改信犹太教。 这一决定表明，可萨人的战略思维远远超出了地理和贸易。

 

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The conversion of the Khazars to Judaism is similar to the conversion of the Uighurs to Manichaeism.

[Genava55]

3 hours ago, myou5e said:

Very Interesting Video. Still, it was hard to see who they were ethnically. The migration of Jews and the conversion of nobles doesn't tell us much about the actual people, just the official policy of the Rulers.

There is a conference book on the topic:

https://brill.com/view/title/14220

You can get most of the chapters/articles through google scholars for free:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=The+World+of+the+Khazars&btnG=

[Lion.Kanzen]

9 hours ago, AIEND said:

The conversion of the Khazars to Judaism is similar to the conversion of the Uighurs to Manichaeism.

I did not know that. then they converted to Islam?

[AIEND]

4 小时前，Lion.Kanzen 说：

我不知道。 然后他们皈依了伊斯兰教？

No, they converted to Buddhism, which is somewhat similar to Manichaeism, and were finally driven by the Mongolians who believed in Islam to Gansu, China, which is now the Yugur.
The Uyghurs that China now defines are not really Uyghurs, but the settled indigenous people of the older oasis, who cannot leave their homeland like the nomadic Uyghurs, so they can only be conquered and believe in Islam.

[Carltonus]

On 16/1/2022 at 2:15 PM, Radiotraining said:

 

For some reason, this video became unlisted recently. Something to hide? Still be found on their "Nomadic Cultures" playlist though.