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20 分钟前,BreakfastBurrito_007 说:

出于所有意图和目的,早在乌克兰考虑加入北约之前,俄罗斯就已经站在了北约的门口。 白俄罗斯在这一点上基本上只是一个额外的俄罗斯。 此外,欧洲人确实对俄罗斯有不满,他们厌倦了网络攻击、暗杀、FSB 人员四处奔波和混合战争。

看到乌克兰“坦克人”在天安门做同样的事情,非常难过。 也许他们受到了他的启发?

Before you think about what you hate about Russia, think back to how Russia went from being friendly to the West in the 1990s to what it is now.;)

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1 hour ago, MarcusAureliu#s said:

Also Georgia was invaded.

Georgia first sent tanks, while US military advisors were in the country.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusAureliu#s said:

While NATO is not only responsible for good things in the world, it allows its members to stay democratic, and also requires some degree of democracy.

NATO was co-founded by a dictator, and NATO did exactly nothing when the military couped in member countries.

Edit: I forgot to mention that you can't really call Turkey under Erdogan a democracy.

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25 minutes ago, AIEND said:

Serbia also doesn't seem to be attacking NATO, but guess who bombed Belgrade (the Chinese embassy was also bombed, three diplomats died), and how did Kosovo become an "independent state"?

For me it is weird that a human being could think like that. You are defending the claim of China over Taïwan because according to you they are the same people, you are defending the legitimacy of North Korea on the same pretext that they are the same people. Now you are telling us that you don't see a problem about genocide and ethnic cleansing when it is happening in an independent country? Are you sure to understand what happened in Yugoslavia?

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38 minutes ago, AIEND said:

The DPRK's reunification of the motherland is its internal affairs, just like the CPLA eliminated Chiang Kai-shek's reactionary military government, and should not be interfered with by other countries sending troops.

Also, the account of the PRC handing over the Korean troops to the Korean People's Army is always exaggerated by the West, I suggest you read this paper, unfortunately it seems to be only in Chinese.

http://ww2.usc.cuhk.edu.hk/PaperCollection/Details.aspx?id=6375

Its Ukrain motherland, they have their own culture and language

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1 hour ago, Lopess said:

But probably it was the local vodka, it's very beautiful to post on social networks, but in practice it doesn't mean much, I think it's very romanticism that only serves the media machine but for the population it's just a risk of finding a soldier who is tired of defying the order of his superior and pass over the poor citizen.

 

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23 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

 

 

25 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

 

Thanks for showing a perfect example of something beautiful for social media but as soon as this video is cut the bomboio probably passed (we can't be sure since it was cut).

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40 minutes ago, Lopess said:

Thanks for showing a perfect example of something beautiful for social media but as soon as this video is cut the bomboio probably passed (we can't be sure since it was cut).

No reference to vodka? Man, we have made progress here.

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10 小时前,BreakfastBurrito_007 说:

@AIEND 你确定整个联合国都开始了对朝鲜的战争吗? 然后我很难相信他们几乎输了(他们只被推到釜山)。

The countries participating in the United Nations Army include combat troops from 16 countries including the United States, Britain, France, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece, Turkey, Colombia, Thailand, the Philippines, South Africa, and Ethiopia, as well as Italy, Norway, Medical teams from Sweden, Denmark and India.

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11 小时前,Genava55 说:

对我来说,一个人会这样想是很奇怪的。 你在捍卫中国对台湾的主张,因为在你看来,他们是同一个人,你以他们是同一个人为借口捍卫朝鲜的合法性。 现在你告诉我们,当种族灭绝和种族清洗发生在一个独立的国家时,你看不到它的问题吗? 你确定了解南斯拉夫发生的事情吗?

So can you not see the atrocities in Donetsk and Luhansk and Odessa? Do you know how many civilians there were raped, dismembered and burned by Ukrainian troops and Nazis? Do you know how many children under the age of 6 and the elderly over 60 have died here?
The Ukrainian government obviously does not regard the ethnic Russians and communists in Ukraine as its own. Since NATO can bomb Bolgrade, why can't Russia attack Kyiv?

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11 hours ago, Genava55 said:

对我来说,一个人会这样想是很奇怪的。 你在捍卫中国对台湾的主张,因为在你看来,他们是同一个人,你以他们是同一个人为借口捍卫朝鲜的合法性。 现在你告诉我们,当种族灭绝和种族清洗发生在一个独立的国家时,你看不到它的问题吗? 你确定了解南斯拉夫发生的事情吗?

In addition, the United States is not protecting a democratic government in North Korea, but an "emperor", a dictator who ordered the massacre of his own people and repeatedly sent troops to attack the Democratic People's Republic of Korea north of the 38th parallel.
This is exactly the same as Chinese dictator Chiang Kai-shek's provocation against the liberated areas with US support, I am grateful that the Korean People's Army was able to obtain weapons from the Soviet Union in the early days of the war, not as in 1946, when the Chinese counter-revolutionary junta received a large number of US weapons , while CPLA has nothing.

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From my point of view, blindly applying Russian or Nazi or North Korean logic to China is wrong, such reasoning will lead to wrong conclusions. You cannot predict that mainland China will go to war with Taiwan simply because Putin pushed into Ukraine. These are independent events and CCP doesn't think nor behave like Putin, even though the media in your country portray both as evil entities.

On Korean war, China only became heavily involved when this MacArthur dude claimed to want to invade China after he got North Korea, a bit like the champion unit that you set to violent mode which no longer listens to your command to retreat. Just like your champion unit, he suicided and in the meantime dragging a lot of innocent people to die with his stupidity.

I am not saying there is a right or wrong in Putin's actions because who am I to judge? I remain neutral in this topic. But the strong players will win unless the weak players team up and 3v1 him

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South Korean and North Korean are different. At least in 2022 there are many different vocabularies and expressions, although mostly mutually intelligible after some adaptation. (A bit like Azeri vs Türkiye Turkish or Russian vs Belarussian)

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16 hours ago, smiley said:

No chance. Russia is on the verge of defaulting. Moody's and S&P downgraded those bonds to junk. Last night (which was when I last looked at it), the credit default swaps were sky high. Charging like 40 or 50% upfront on the face value. (For non financial guys, bond insurers think those bonds are garbage).

This is risk a technical default associated with the inability to sell highly liquid assets nominated in euros and US dollars
Numbers:
Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves ~600 billion u.s.d
Reserves not subject to sanctions ~300
External debt - 470
Goverment debt 67
Export ~500, Import ~250 (+250 per year)

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2小时前,叶卡捷琳娜说:

韩国人和朝鲜人不一样。 至少在 2022 年有许多不同的词汇和表达方式,尽管经过一些改编后大多可以相互理解。 (有点像阿塞拜疆 vs Türkiye 土耳其语或 俄罗斯 vs 白俄罗斯)

DPRK and South Korea have not yet been differentiated to that degree. After all, they are just like Vietnam, which was once divided in half by U.S. imperialism. The history of separation is very short, from 1945 to the present, only more than 70 years ago.
They all use the same script and language, but the vocabulary used is somewhat different.

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21 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Sorry but Europe is not Venezuela. Higher gas price doesn't lead to a recession.

The higher gas price is less an issue than COVID shutdown.

 

the recession started earlier.

The Federal Reserve says that you have to raise interest rates everyone does.

Europe had this planned in 2023-2024.

But this changes the landscape.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/3/1/germanys-inflation-bolstered-by-surge-in-energy-costs

 

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1573799/russia-ukraine-crisis-germany-inflation-stagflation-germany-economy

 

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2 hours ago, AIEND said:

Since NATO can bomb Bolgrade

Yugoslavian wars are much more complicated, it was a long period of conflict involving different ethnicities killing eachothers. At several occasions, NATO have bombed a specific part of the country to stop the wars. Belgrade is the most controversial bombing but there were previous ones and they worked. I don't approve the bombing, I was one of those protesting against it with my mother in Geneva. But I understand why NATO relied on this, the previous bombing in 1995 worked, it forced the genocidal maniac Radovan Karadžić to negociate and first of all, to stop his massacre. 

3 hours ago, AIEND said:

So can you not see the atrocities in Donetsk and Luhansk and Odessa? Do you know how many civilians there were raped, dismembered and burned by Ukrainian troops and Nazis? Do you know how many children under the age of 6 and the elderly over 60 have died here?

I do, I have participated in a charity for the Donbass in 2014, collecting clothes and school material for them. But I also know that if the civilians are the victims, Russians separatists are also violent and well-armed, commiting war crimes too. Especially since there are Russian weapons and Russian volunteers from Chechenia, they have the same level of violence than the Ukrainian nationalists from Azov. We should also remember the Soviet nostalgia among the separatists, exhibing the Soviet flag and putting Soviet symbols on their coat of arms. The image of the Soviet Union is as bad as the Nazi in Ukraine, so yeah each side have matched the other in stupidity.

The difference with Yugoslavia and with NATO, is that Russia is clearly profiting of the situation and see it as an opportunity. The annexion of Crimea served their interest and at least they would have the support of the population. But in Donbass, they made everything for the war to continue, making claims and asking impossible conditions to force the Ukrainians to not accept the deal. The current invasion from Russia make it obvious that their discourse about Donbass was hypocritical, they are planning to capture Kiev and all the eastern part of Ukraine, east of the Dniepr. They are probably planning the annexion of half of Ukraine and to keep Kiev. That's the difference. Most Ukranians, even those speaking Russians, do not want to be a part of Russia. Even in Donbass, they would prefer the independance and be like Belarus. 

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1 minute ago, Genava55 said:

Yugoslavian wars are much more complicated, it was a long period of conflict involving different ethnicities killing eachothers. At several occasions, NATO have bombed a specific part of the country to stop the wars. Belgrade is the most controversial bombing but there were previous ones and they worked. I don't approve the bombing, I was one of those protesting against it with my mother in Geneva. But I understand why NATO relied on this, the previous bombing in 1995 worked, it forced the genocidal maniac Radovan Karadžić to negociate and first of all, to stop his massacre. 

I do, I have participated in a charity for the Donbass in 2014, collecting clothes and school material for them. But I also know that if the civilians are the victims, Russians separatists are also violent and well-armed, commiting war crimes too. Especially since there are Russian weapons and Russian volunteers from Chechenia, they have the same level of violence than the Ukrainian nationalists from Azov. We should also remember the Soviet nostalgia among the separatists, exhibing the Soviet flag and putting Soviet symbols on their coat of arms. The image of the Soviet Union is as bad as the Nazi in Ukraine, so yeah each side have matched the other in stupidity.

The difference with Yugoslavia and with NATO, is that Russia is clearly profiting of the situation and see it as an opportunity. The annexion of Crimea served their interest and at least they would have the support of the population. But in Donbass, they made everything for the war to continue, making claims and asking impossible conditions to force the Ukrainians to not accept the deal. The current invasion from Russia make it obvious that their discourse about Donbass was hypocritical, they are planning to capture Kiev and all the eastern part of Ukraine, east of the Dniepr. They are probably planning the annexion of half of Ukraine and to keep Kiev. That's the difference. Most Ukranians, even those speaking Russians, do not want to be a part of Russia. Even in Donbass, they would prefer the independance and be like Belarus. 

this does not justify the West doing the same.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/us/politics/somalia-shabab-us-airstrike.html

 

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Former governor of the Bank of Portugal, Vítor Constâncio, has warned that sanctions against Russia will “greatly affect” European economies and plunge the continent into recession.

 

“If Russia invades the whole of the Ukraine there will certainly be a recession in the case of an implementation of the full package of sanctions,” said the economist, who was also a former vice-president of the European Central Bank, on Twitter.

 

“The full package of sanctions will cripple Russia’s economy, but it will greatly hurt the West economies, mainly in Europe. Will European unity stand for the full sanctions?” he asks

https://www.portugalresident.com/sanctions-will-throw-europe-into-recession/

 

 

 

 

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