Carltonus Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Before @wowgetoffyourcellphone forgets, here is the general thread for the Epirotes faction. Current unit roster: Heroes: Recommended resources: Epeiros in Europa Barbarorum Wiki (and the Epeiros category list of units) Epirus on Divide et Impera mod website Edited August 9, 2021 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Based on this I think we can give Alexander II some bonuses to do with recovery in desperate situations and healing. Perhaps something like units within 60 meters of him gain 2 hp per second and women can build 30% faster (useful if your cc is knocked down). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Alexander the Molossian was the founder of Epirotes and rebuilt Molossian tribe, therefore we can give him some eco bonus. He also fought bravely against the Lucanians so we can also give him an attack bonus. Aura: Champions + 10% attack Hero Bonus: All workers gather 20% faster Special tech: more territory influence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carltonus Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Yekaterina said: I think we can give Alexander II some bonuses to do with recovery in desperate situations and healing. Perhaps something like units within 60 meters of him gain 2 hp per second and women can build 30% faster (useful if your cc is knocked down). Alexander the Molossian was the founder of Epirotes and rebuilt Molossian tribe, therefore we can give him some eco bonus. He also fought bravely against the Lucanians so we can also give him an attack bonus. Kath, I had a suggestion before yours in the Hero Upgrades thread: 23 hours ago, Carltonus said: @wowgetoffyourcellphone, Alexander I can have auras pertaining to enemy mercenaries as he fought against Italic tribes. Alexander II to friendly and allied mercenaries since he was likely allied with the Aetolians in retaking Epirus. Alexander I should not have the thureos skirmisher and Galatian swordsman as the oval shield has not been introduced to Hellenistic warfare yet. Suggest peltastai and Thracian as replacements. The faction can be divided into pre-Hellenistic and Hellenistic era subfactions, with differing unit rosters: Pre-Hellenistic: Epirote hoplite Epirote peltast/Lucanian skirmisher Prodromos cavalry skirmisher Thessalian lancer Illyrian or Italic spearman Illyrian swordsman or Thracian rhomphaiaphoros Cretan archer Allied Greek or Ilyrian light cavalry Chaonian hoplite (or hypaspist) Molosson hippeus (bodyguard cavalry) Heroes: Neoptolemus I and Alexander I Hellenistic: Phalangite Thureos skirmisher → Thorakites skirmisher (can be fourth rank) Greek or Thracian archer Tarantine cavalry Hellenic or Thessalian lancer Thureos (→ Thorakites) or Illyrian (→ Elite/Ardianian) spearman Celtothracian, Italic, or Triballic swordsman Illyrian or Thracian slinger Ilyrian light or Campanian cavalry Chaonian agema (hoplite or phalangite) Molossian agema cavalry African bush or Indian war elephant Heroes: Pyrrhus of Epirus, Alexander II, and Pyrrhus II Edited March 20, 2021 by Carltonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I am not sure two factions is needed. Maybe something like how choosing Cleomenes give Sparta Pikemen, Pyrrhus and Alexander II have standard hellenistic roster. and if you pick Alexander I you get a more classical roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said: I am not sure two factions is needed. Maybe something like how choosing Cleomenes give Sparta Pikemen, Pyrrhus and Alexander II have standard hellenistic roster. and if you pick Alexander I you get a more classical roster. Right. Alex I -> Pyrrhus, Alex II Akontistai -> Thyreophoroi Hoplite -> Phalangite Prodromos -> Tarantine Cavalry That would really be all that's needed to show an evolution. Maybe change the Chaonians = Hoplite/Hypaspist -> Heavy Phalangites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dasaavawar Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 Here is another possible wonder instead of the (not yet modeled) "Oracle Shrine at Dodona" (which is unfortunately too big as for fitting properly within the wonder's average size). Notice how the "Sanctuary of Artemis Orthia" from Spartians is neither properly represented as a wonder (lacking particularly those bleachers that shape similarly to a theater). And at this point even the current Greek Theater looks small. Nekromanteion of Acheron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromanteion_of_Acheron https://www.gtp.gr/TDirectoryDetails.asp?ID=14883 https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g12897849-d647104-Reviews-Nekromanteion_Acheron-Mesopotamos_Preveza_Region_Epirus.html https://www.gtp.gr/showphoto.asp?FN=/MGfiles/location/image15734[252].jpg&w=650&H=370 https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/a0/4c/59/nekromanteion-oracle.jpg?w=1200&h=-1&s=1 https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g12897849-d647104-r120010979-Nekromanteion_Acheron-Mesopotamos_Preveza_Region_Epirus.html https://www.alamy.es/imagenes/nekromanteion.html https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Nekromanteio.svg/600px-Nekromanteio.svg.png (It would require an artistic reconstruction too, just like the "Oracle Shrine at Dodona"). In my humble opinion, the architecture looks a little more similar to the one of the Spartans than to the one of the Macedonians. (And maybe an historian could correct this). But for differentiating them from the Thebans and the upcoming Syracusians, they could use Spartans textures and (some) buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 19/03/2021 at 10:16 PM, Carltonus said: Kath, I had a suggestion before yours in the Hero Upgrades thread: Alexander I should not have the thureos skirmisher and Galatian swordsman as the oval shield has not been introduced to Hellenistic warfare yet. Suggest peltastai and Thracian as replacements. The faction can be divided into pre-Hellenistic and Hellenistic era subfactions, with differing unit rosters: Pre-Hellenistic: Epirote hoplite Epirote peltast/Lucanian skirmisher Prodromos cavalry skirmisher Thessalian lancer Illyrian or Italic spearman Illyrian swordsman or Thracian rhomphaiaphoros Cretan archer Allied Greek or Ilyrian light cavalry Chaonian hoplite (or hypaspist) Molosson hippeus (bodyguard cavalry) Heroes: Neoptolemus I and Alexander I Hellenistic: Phalangite Thureos skirmisher → Thorakites skirmisher (can be fourth rank) Greek or Thracian archer Tarantine cavalry Hellenic or Thessalian lancer Thureos (→ Thorakites) or Illyrian (→ Elite/Ardianian) spearman Celtothracian, Italic, or Triballic swordsman Illyrian or Thracian slinger Ilyrian light or Campanian cavalry Chaonian agema (hoplite or phalangite) Molossian agema cavalry African bush or Indian war elephant Heroes: Pyrrhus of Epirus, Alexander II, and Pyrrhus II But seeing as alexander I was placed on the throne by Phillip and stayed under his wing for a while, wouldn't he like phillip in thebes pick up his guardian's reforms ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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