Dream of gamer ( 16 players game)

[Dakara 33]

Hello everyone,
 

What do you think of the possibility of making 12-player games see 16 players?

@team 0AD, what are the technological limits? The generation of random cards?

 

Of course many will say that the game is not optimized enough for this but I think it can be playable with 100 / 150pop and a good map.

It would be really cool that we are free to play at 12 or 16... 

 

Thank you all !
 

 

 

[Lion.Kanzen 4.685]

3 hours ago, Dakara said:

Hello everyone,
 

What do you think of the possibility of making 12-player games see 16 players?

@team 0AD, what are the technological limits? The generation of random cards?

 

Of course many will say that the game is not optimized enough for this but I think it can be playable with 100 / 150pop and a good map.

It would be really cool that we are free to play at 12 or 16... 

 

Thank you all !
 

 

 

Only your pc + pathfinder is the limit.

[coworotel 307]

1 hour ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Only your pc + pathfinder is the limit.

Isn't there a limit in the engine for 8 players? Or is it possible to make a mod with more?

[Lion.Kanzen 4.685]

1 hour ago, coworotel said:

Isn't there a limit in the engine for 8 players? Or is it possible to make a mod with more?

Engine... Somebody said this before from team.

 

@fatherbushido you remember who was?

[Boudica 277]

I think that @elexis had a patch to increase the player count limit. One of the problems is that (some of) the map generating scripts aren't designed to work with more than eight players.

[fatherbushido 662]

If I am not wrong, some data types used in the code fit the number of players. So it would require some careful work. (It's not like if there was just a number to change everywhere.)

Edited August 20, 2019 by fatherbushido

[nani 515]

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1662

18 minutes ago, fatherbushido said:

If I am not wrong, some data types used in the code fit the number of players. So it would require some careful work. (It's not like if there was just a number to change everywhere.)

As fatherbushido said the way the game player data is stored makes it difficult to or I would say impossible without changing how many things works inside the engine. Most data concerning the number of players is implicit encoded in one sole variable (to "compress" the data) for all players instead of a variable for each. The current limit is a hard 8 players + gaia.

From the side of the map's playability: As elexis said, the problem resides in that the current maps just aren't made for more than 8 players.

Edited August 20, 2019 by nani

[go2die 101]

new maps can be developed... if there is possibility to have more players...  

[Dakara 33]

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[Stan` 6.851]

9 hours ago, Dakara said:

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I think this thread has been answered. Aside from the extra code and removing the player limit assumptions, performance is the biggest issue.

[Dakara 33]

with 100 pop or 50 pop and good map it possible no?

[Stan` 6.851]

I guess. There might be network lag though

[Dakara 33]

I see on some other games that you can play up to 62 players (a not very beautiful and not fun rts)

[Stan` 6.851]

Indeed, and they likely have very different limitations because they use very different engines. They also probably are developed by very different  individuals. Of course this is does not mean there is nothing that can be done. But this is not something which has a huge priority.

In fact it was even attempted in the past by @nani see: https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1662

[Thorfinn the Shallow Minded 600]

0 A.D. the mmo, coming 20??