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Some tweaks, removed the barrel and the grid.

Decided to play around with the rome barracks.

Despite of the direction you end up following with the layout, here are some suggestions with the structural parts:   Use thicker wall wood beams. The wood beams on the walls are currently t

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I'd look to the split buildings instead of the original barracks, the iron grate and floating arches were a problem in the original, while the crenellations look better than they were sitting directly on the floor, I don't know why the merlons are thicker than the rest, I'd fix that

that said i do like the layout and transition from covered walk to the open one

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1 hour ago, Nescio said:

They're a Celtic invention. Barrels were only gradually adopted by the Romans in imperial times (post AD). 

That's why I read this forum. I mean, how do you even know such thing...

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I don't know what it is. It just looks less "balanced" than the old one, like you took the old one, mirrored it, and made it worse somehow. lol. Sorry if I can't quite put my finger on it. While I still have an interest in architecture and an eye for aesthetics, I haven't taken Architectural theory in 17 years. :) 

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8 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I don't know what it is. It just looks less "balanced" than the old one, like you took the old one, mirrored it, and made it worse somehow. lol. Sorry if I can't quite put my finger on it. While I still have an interest in architecture and an eye for aesthetics, I haven't taken Architectural theory in 17 years. :) 

yes is visual balance related with psychology (affects design 3D, 2D, architecture... ).

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Gestalt Principles
How humans perceive patterns can be directly attributed to the Gestalt principles. Our brains are wired to see symmetry and balance of a unified whole, hence the visual perception of the synchronising elements together. Gestalt principles are built on aspects like similarity, continuation, closure, proximity and figure/ground.

These principles tend to trick the brain as optical illusions so thorough attention should be practised by designers. Humans tend to go to the path of the least resistance. When we are presented with extensive information, we simplify and deconstruct to its most straightforward meaning.

For example, when viewing a building façade from different perspectives, the rhythmic language often represents balance through the consolidated elements. Lines that converge from a single viewpoint create the illusion of depth and scale. The brain makes sense of the visual system by deductive reasoning.

 

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Despite of the direction you end up following with the layout, here are some suggestions with the structural parts:

 

Use thicker wall wood beams. The wood beams on the walls are currently too thin. Making them thicker will provide a sturdier feel. Also use the "X" pattern which is very characteristic of romans:

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For the "boringness" of the walls, you can throw some "indent" arches. I think Pureon also used them in some roman houses.

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Banners and shields hanging on walls: I think it is a great eye-candy catcher to spice up walls and give the military feel. It is a decoration element used in several of the barracks in-game that works pretty well.

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Investigate adding different roofing levels:

         -Except few exceptions (Persians and Seleucids) the barracks often have roof elevation variations to spice up the shilouette, while keeping the "U" shape layout:

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For further structural inspiration, you could take a look at AC:Origins and AC:Odissey cities screenshots, or fire up the game if you have them. You can get very nice ideas and keep the historical accurracy.

 

cheers!

 

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OH, and @Stan`, although @Nesciois right on those barrels, they did have baskets in all shapes, and also boxes in all sizes and lengths - just make sure they are covered with something rain-proof if exposed to rain/wind outside. You can create variation on that front to replace barrels. If buildings can be tidied up it will make the hellenistic civ "looks" progressively more realistic, but it is also good to have some real variation because too much "order" is also not right as you know.

Stuff was generally stored indoors, behind locks and in boxes, because otherwise people would steal the stuff of course. But surely there is some license for a computer game, even for the most evil classicist :gandalf_w:

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