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I have very bad news for Attic "Imperial"...

 

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All of them represent exceptional diversity of helmet types. It is, therefore, logical to wonder whether iconographic sources are reliable. In particular, the following questions come to the fore: Did all the images we have reflect actual helmets? If not, which ones most closely imitated the real samples of that time? In order to investigate this issue in more depth, we need to take in to consideration the function of a given monument, a degree of the professionalism of an artist and his goals, and a requirements of a customer commissioning a given piece of art. Moreover, it is useful to scrutinize the quality of the material used by sculptor, as it may be crucial to the question of whether it was technically possible to show fine detail. Although, in some cases it is very difficult to find answers to these questions, generally they help to build a conceptual model of interpretation of iconographic armament.

Roman propaganda monuments are known best of all forms of art of that period. Their relatively wide familiarity may, at least partially, be attributed to their frequent appearance in Hollywood blockbusters. Despite numerous doubts expressed by modern researchers, they continue to be valuable sources in many aspects as those monuments, mostly located in the capital, show how military weapons were perceived by its inhabitants, and especially by the sculptors who worked on these monuments. Evidently, these artists considered primarily the weapons of the metropolitan garrisons, as well as the depictions of armor on Greek and Hellenistic monuments, from which they were learning their craft. Apparently, they found it important to display the structural type of helmet, for example, the so-called Attic one, planted in a common person’s mind; as a Roman saw it as being removed from the multidirectional and quick change of improvements and deteriorations, consecrated by tradition and relating to a different, deep and slow-changing sphere of existence.

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Sculptors created a collective image of the Roman soldier, often sacrificing personal details. In addition, many of the capital's artists were not familiar with the real military equipment, and less skilled provincial artists who were better acquainted with military fashion, sometimes created more realistic images. However, the capital monuments should not be completely ignored, because they are likely to show soldier’s equipment at the garrison of Rome, including the praetorian cohort. Apart from these monuments some other reliefs which are interpreted as depicting Praetorians and their armament can be seen on the fragments of the “Great Trajanic Frieze” 13 in Rome and on the so-called “Praetorian relief” in the Louvre Museum14 (fig. 1, 7). All the soldiers depicted on them have ornate Attic helmets with crests and plumes which are not similar to common army pieces. However, there have been found some remnants of helmets of this “Attic” shape, which may suggest that they existed not only on graphical representations, but also in reality. Some British researchers completely exclude purely artistic prototype of the “Attic” helmet and called the "Attic" also Chalcidian helmet if they do not have nasal guard.15 Judging by the lack of finds, after IVth century BC in Italy, helmets were not placed in a grave. However, this does not mean that the tradition of making “Attic” helmets was interrupted. Iconographic sources show that Roman artists of the Imperial period depicted its lower Italic and Hellenistic variants. In the late republican era and during the reign of Octavian Augustus there appeared helmet images of Hellenistic mixed types with a wide brim, fronton and volutes on the sides of the hemispherical or sphero-conical bowl. The wide brims of these helmets are reminiscent of the samples of the Macedonian cavalry.

https://ihism.uph.edu.pl/images/PDFs/historia_i_swiat_4/end_Negin.pdf

 

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the  4 options for the Heroes 

Attic Thracian.

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the only thing that changes is the detail of visor, the visor is that adornment that is added in attic helmets as a reinforcement on the forehead.

Apulian Corinthian with Attic features.

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As before, the examples all have a visor reinforcement.

Italo Corinthian with Thracian features

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Montefortino/Negau with Attic Thracian features.

this would be a mix of several helmets.

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all these would be the bases for the helmets of the heroes.

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4 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Classical Style

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Has anyone noticed that the Statues of the Roman gods must have started from some of these real Models?

Until now that I remembered certain statues of Mars, I have made the relationship, they must not have been only mythological helmets, they must have been based on the idea of the Hellenistic ideal in their clothing.

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