Civ: Imperial Romans (Principates)

[Ultimate Aurelian]

30 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Nope. There can still be a Part 2 (Bronze Age), Part 3 (Medieval Period), etc., all "0 A.D." 

0 A.D. is the franchise. Empires Ascendant is the game.

 

Should we extend the part 1 timeline backwards too and include civs  like Assyrians, pre-ptolemy egypt, Judah, Lydia and Etruscans ?

And make Part 2 pre bronze age collapse ?

45 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Thanks! I think they'd have fewer variants per unit than other civs, but they wouldn't be completely uniform as depicted in films and TV.

Centurions and other higher ranking troops would try to stand out for sure.

On another note, alongside with the current champion sword cavalry; perhaps a champion ''proto cataphract'' spear cavalry with masked helmet and limb protection ?

Some Principate cataphracts from Osprey:

Spoiler

(1) Romano-Egyptian heavily armoured cavalryman, 31 BC.

This figure is copied from part of the famous monument to a
senior naval officer of the time of Marcus Antonius, now in the
Vatican museum, and from the Mausoleum of the Titeci near
Lake Fucinus. He probably represents a member of the
kataphraktoi of the Eastern allies of Cleopatra and M. Antonius,
or perhaps even a member of their bodyguard. Note the
helmet with wide cheek-guards partly protecting the face; the
thorax stadios (‘muscled’ or anatomical) cuirass; the shield of
scutum type, and the three javelins. Hidden here, his right arm
would be covered with articulated ‘hoop’ armour.

(2) Romano-Thracian cataphract; Chatalka, c. AD 75−100

The armoured cavalryman from the Chatalka burial in Bulgaria
may have worn what Arwidson calls ‘belt armour’ – a
combination of iron plates, scales and splints in the Iranian
tradition. The neck is protected by a thick iron gorget, following
the Thracian–Macedonian style; it was made in two pieces
connected by a strap, and the outer surface was originally
painted red. Surviving individual rings show that it was worn
over a separate ringmail collar. Note his magnificent masked
helmet (see reconstructions on pages 8-9). The Chatalka burial
also included a beautiful sword of Chinese type.
 

 

Spoiler

(1) Sarmatian cataphract; Adygeia, c. 110 AD

Archaeological finds at the Gorodoskoy farm site on the
ancient Pontic steppes in Adygeia (Russian Federation)
revealed the impressive armour of a true Sarmatian
cataphractus, a prototype for the Roman armoured contarius.
He wears a segmented iron spangenhelm with an attached
scale aventail; the skull consists of four vertical pieces with the
space between filled with horizontal strips, as depicted on
Trajan’s Column. The height of the occupant of the grave was
about 1.7m (5ft 6in), and the superb ringmail coat was up to
1.5m long (4ft 11in). At the top it fastened with buckles to the
scale aventail. At the bottom it was divided into two flaps,
allowing the wearer to sit on a horse with ease; the flaps were
wrapped around the legs like trousers, being fastened in this
position above the knee and on the shins with wide ringmail
strips. Because of the poor preservation of the recovered
armour the length of the sleeves is not clear, but given the
degree of easy movement that would be required to wield the
swords and javelins found in such graves we assume that they
ended at the elbows. He carries a long spatha-type sword, but
his main weapon is the very long contus sarmaticus.

(2) Decurio of Ala Prima Gallorum et Pannoniorum
catafractata, 2nd century AD

The reconstruction of this junior officer is based on the studies
of Gamber. He proposes that the chamfron found at Newstead,
Scotland, and other recovered fragments of leather horse
armour decorated with rivets, give an idea of the appearance
of the mounts used by the early Roman cataphracts. The
decurion’s personal armour is reconstructed from Pannonian
gravestones and archaeological finds; the troopers also could
wear decorated helmets like this Trajanic or Hadrianic example
from Brza Palanka, and bronze ocreae (greaves). We have
completed him with full-length ‘hooped’ articulated arm
protection (the galerus), a cavalry spatha and the contus.

(3) Praefectus of an Ala catafractata, late 2nd century AD

This unit commander is largely reconstructed from the horseman
balteus decoration from Trecenta in the Veneto region of northeast
Italy. The officers of the cataphracts wore beautiful decorated
helmets of Hellenic taste, here copied from an open-mask
specimen ex-Axel Guttman collection (AG451). He is wearing a
composite armour formed by a thorax stadios and laminae
vertically disposed around the lower trunk, following the system
of the Iranian ‘belt armour’, and copper-alloy greaves. Gamber
proposes the mace as an officer’s weapon, which may be
confirmed by a specimen found in Dura Europos associated with
cavalry finds, and by the fighting position of the cavalryman
represented on the Trecenta balteus fitting. A regimental
commander’s horse equipment would be suitably magnificent;
decorated pectoral protections with embossed figures, and
partial bronze chamfrons with eye-protectors, have been found
near Brescia, Turin, Vienna and in other localities.

 

Spoiler

(1) Osrhoenian heavy cavalry sagittarius, army of Severus Alexander; Gallia, AD 235

According to Herodian, Severus Alexander had brought with
him for his Rhine frontier campaign a large force of archers from
the East including from Osrhoene, together with Parthian deserters
and mercenaries. The horse-archers included heavy armoured units;
shooting from well beyond the range of the Germans’ weapons,
they did great execution among their unarmoured adversaries.
We have given this soldier some Roman equipment found in
north German bogs, such as the mask helmet from Thorsbjerg
and the ringmail shirt from Vimose, integrated with clothing and
fittings from Parthian and Hatrene paintings. Iconography
(e.g. synagogue painting from Dura), and graffiti suggest that
the composite bow and a quiver would have been carried slung
from the saddle behind the right leg, convenient for the right hand.

(2) Cataphractarius of Ala Firma catafractaria, army of
Maximinus Thrax; Germania, AD 235

Reconstructed from the stele of the Saluda brothers, he has rich
equipment from the Rhine area: a Mainz-Heddernheim style
helmet; bronze scale armour from Mainz; and highly decorated
greaves embossed with a representation of the god Mars, from
Speyer. His weapons and related fittings (spatha, baldric, contus)
are copied from finds around Mainz, Nydam, and the Vimose
bogs, where a lot of captured Roman equipment relating to the
campaigns of Severus Alexander and Maximinus was found. The
armour of his horse has been reconstructed from the lesserknown
third trapper found in Dura Europos, made of copper-alloy
scales, although the prometopidion (chamfron) is from
Heddernheim. Under it the horse wears the equine harness from
Nydam, including a brown leather muzzle with a bronze boss and
fastened with bridle-chains to the rings of the bit.

(3) Clibanarius of a Numerus Palmyrenorum; Dura Europos,
mid-3rd century AD

This ‘super-heavy’ cavalryman is reconstructed from the
famous clibanarius graffito at Dura Europos (Tower 17). Note
his conical mask helmet, and laminated armour covering
torso, legs and arms. The limb defences consisted mainly of
plates overlapping upwards, as required to throw off enemy
spears running up the left arm, unprotected by a shield.
Composite scale-and-plate armour similar to Iranian or
Palmyrene models, as portrayed in the graffito, covers the
trunk. Thigh protection was often associated with greaves,
and was found at Dura made of copper alloy and lined with
linen. His mount is stronger than the usual Arab breeds, and is
protected by the iron-scale trapper – described in the text as
number (2) – found at Dura.
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Stan`]

44 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

0 A.D. is the franchise. Empires Ascendant is the game.

I guess at some point we'll have to make that clear ^^.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

19 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Should we extend the part 1 timeline backwards too and include civs  like Assyrians, pre-ptolemy egypt, Judah, Lydia and Etruscans ?

I think we should have to make choices. Etruscans (they can fight Gauls and Romans) and Judeans (to fight Seleucids and Romans) might make sense while the other maybe not. That's just my view.

 

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And make Part 2 pre bronze age collapse ?

Part 2 could be a prequel, yeah. Mycenaeans, New Kingdom Egyptians, Minoans, Hittites, Babylonians, Old Judeans, Assyrians, Wilusa (Troy), Phoenicians, a couple others.

 

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Centurions and other higher ranking troops would try to stand out for sure.

Right, we could get really creative with Centurions.

 

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On another note, alongside with the current champion sword cavalry; perhaps a champion ''proto cataphract'' spear cavalry with masked helmet and limb protection ?

Some Principate cataphracts from Osprey:

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(1) Romano-Egyptian heavily armoured cavalryman, 31 BC.

This figure is copied from part of the famous monument to a
senior naval officer of the time of Marcus Antonius, now in the
Vatican museum, and from the Mausoleum of the Titeci near
Lake Fucinus. He probably represents a member of the
kataphraktoi of the Eastern allies of Cleopatra and M. Antonius,
or perhaps even a member of their bodyguard. Note the
helmet with wide cheek-guards partly protecting the face; the
thorax stadios (‘muscled’ or anatomical) cuirass; the shield of
scutum type, and the three javelins. Hidden here, his right arm
would be covered with articulated ‘hoop’ armour.

(2) Romano-Thracian cataphract; Chatalka, c. AD 75−100

The armoured cavalryman from the Chatalka burial in Bulgaria
may have worn what Arwidson calls ‘belt armour’ – a
combination of iron plates, scales and splints in the Iranian
tradition. The neck is protected by a thick iron gorget, following
the Thracian–Macedonian style; it was made in two pieces
connected by a strap, and the outer surface was originally
painted red. Surviving individual rings show that it was worn
over a separate ringmail collar. Note his magnificent masked
helmet (see reconstructions on pages 8-9). The Chatalka burial
also included a beautiful sword of Chinese type.
 

 

  Hide contents

(1) Sarmatian cataphract; Adygeia, c. 110 AD

Archaeological finds at the Gorodoskoy farm site on the
ancient Pontic steppes in Adygeia (Russian Federation)
revealed the impressive armour of a true Sarmatian
cataphractus, a prototype for the Roman armoured contarius.
He wears a segmented iron spangenhelm with an attached
scale aventail; the skull consists of four vertical pieces with the
space between filled with horizontal strips, as depicted on
Trajan’s Column. The height of the occupant of the grave was
about 1.7m (5ft 6in), and the superb ringmail coat was up to
1.5m long (4ft 11in). At the top it fastened with buckles to the
scale aventail. At the bottom it was divided into two flaps,
allowing the wearer to sit on a horse with ease; the flaps were
wrapped around the legs like trousers, being fastened in this
position above the knee and on the shins with wide ringmail
strips. Because of the poor preservation of the recovered
armour the length of the sleeves is not clear, but given the
degree of easy movement that would be required to wield the
swords and javelins found in such graves we assume that they
ended at the elbows. He carries a long spatha-type sword, but
his main weapon is the very long contus sarmaticus.

(2) Decurio of Ala Prima Gallorum et Pannoniorum
catafractata, 2nd century AD

The reconstruction of this junior officer is based on the studies
of Gamber. He proposes that the chamfron found at Newstead,
Scotland, and other recovered fragments of leather horse
armour decorated with rivets, give an idea of the appearance
of the mounts used by the early Roman cataphracts. The
decurion’s personal armour is reconstructed from Pannonian
gravestones and archaeological finds; the troopers also could
wear decorated helmets like this Trajanic or Hadrianic example
from Brza Palanka, and bronze ocreae (greaves). We have
completed him with full-length ‘hooped’ articulated arm
protection (the galerus), a cavalry spatha and the contus.

(3) Praefectus of an Ala catafractata, late 2nd century AD

This unit commander is largely reconstructed from the horseman
balteus decoration from Trecenta in the Veneto region of northeast
Italy. The officers of the cataphracts wore beautiful decorated
helmets of Hellenic taste, here copied from an open-mask
specimen ex-Axel Guttman collection (AG451). He is wearing a
composite armour formed by a thorax stadios and laminae
vertically disposed around the lower trunk, following the system
of the Iranian ‘belt armour’, and copper-alloy greaves. Gamber
proposes the mace as an officer’s weapon, which may be
confirmed by a specimen found in Dura Europos associated with
cavalry finds, and by the fighting position of the cavalryman
represented on the Trecenta balteus fitting. A regimental
commander’s horse equipment would be suitably magnificent;
decorated pectoral protections with embossed figures, and
partial bronze chamfrons with eye-protectors, have been found
near Brescia, Turin, Vienna and in other localities.

 

  Hide contents

(1) Osrhoenian heavy cavalry sagittarius, army of Severus Alexander; Gallia, AD 235

According to Herodian, Severus Alexander had brought with
him for his Rhine frontier campaign a large force of archers from
the East including from Osrhoene, together with Parthian deserters
and mercenaries. The horse-archers included heavy armoured units;
shooting from well beyond the range of the Germans’ weapons,
they did great execution among their unarmoured adversaries.
We have given this soldier some Roman equipment found in
north German bogs, such as the mask helmet from Thorsbjerg
and the ringmail shirt from Vimose, integrated with clothing and
fittings from Parthian and Hatrene paintings. Iconography
(e.g. synagogue painting from Dura), and graffiti suggest that
the composite bow and a quiver would have been carried slung
from the saddle behind the right leg, convenient for the right hand.

(2) Cataphractarius of Ala Firma catafractaria, army of
Maximinus Thrax; Germania, AD 235

Reconstructed from the stele of the Saluda brothers, he has rich
equipment from the Rhine area: a Mainz-Heddernheim style
helmet; bronze scale armour from Mainz; and highly decorated
greaves embossed with a representation of the god Mars, from
Speyer. His weapons and related fittings (spatha, baldric, contus)
are copied from finds around Mainz, Nydam, and the Vimose
bogs, where a lot of captured Roman equipment relating to the
campaigns of Severus Alexander and Maximinus was found. The
armour of his horse has been reconstructed from the lesserknown
third trapper found in Dura Europos, made of copper-alloy
scales, although the prometopidion (chamfron) is from
Heddernheim. Under it the horse wears the equine harness from
Nydam, including a brown leather muzzle with a bronze boss and
fastened with bridle-chains to the rings of the bit.

(3) Clibanarius of a Numerus Palmyrenorum; Dura Europos,
mid-3rd century AD

This ‘super-heavy’ cavalryman is reconstructed from the
famous clibanarius graffito at Dura Europos (Tower 17). Note
his conical mask helmet, and laminated armour covering
torso, legs and arms. The limb defences consisted mainly of
plates overlapping upwards, as required to throw off enemy
spears running up the left arm, unprotected by a shield.
Composite scale-and-plate armour similar to Iranian or
Palmyrene models, as portrayed in the graffito, covers the
trunk. Thigh protection was often associated with greaves,
and was found at Dura made of copper alloy and lined with
linen. His mount is stronger than the usual Arab breeds, and is
protected by the iron-scale trapper – described in the text as
number (2) – found at Dura.
 

 

 

Incredible references. I think we could make Proto-Cataphracts the Fortress cavalry champions while moving the Praetorians (who perhaps can switch back and forth from infantry to cavalry) to the Civic Center.

Edited May 17, 2020 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

4 minutes ago, Stan` said:

I guess at some point we'll have to make that clear ^^.

Renaming the public mod could be a first step.

But also in public communications it would be good to emphasize the name more. "Presenting 0 A.D. Empires Ascendant..." and from then on refer to the game as only Empires Ascendant. 

[Stan`]

2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Renaming the public mod could be a first step

Something for the engine split. It might break a lot of stuff. But yeah eventually.

2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

But also in public communications it would be good to emphasize the name more. "Presenting 0 A.D. Empires Ascendant..." and from then on refer to the game as only Empires Ascendant. 

Will try.

As for empires besieged I really want to put together the mod with the factions; Just not having the time currently.

Prequel could be 0 A.D. : Empire Origins

Then 0 A D. : Empires Unity

0AD : Modern warfare ;:D

[Genava55]

1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I'm slowly inceptioning the idea that Empires Ascendant should cover the entire classical time period instead of stopping at 1 BC

 Well I agree in general with your suggestion but isn't it already the idea? 0 A.D. Empires Ascendant to be the base game and expansions to add new civ from 1 to 500 AD?

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In future Expansion Packs, we hope to expand the number of available cultures by incorporating additional civilizations from 1 A.D. to 500 A.D. Possible civilizations include the Germanics, Vandals, Sarmatians, Late Rome, Imperial Rome, Eastern Rome (Early Byzantines), Saxons, Parthians, Huns, Dacians, and the Goths.

https://play0ad.com/game-info/factions/

The day 0 A.D. reaches the beta phase it would be an interesting topic and debate but until then... it is pointless.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Genava55

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 minute ago, Genava55 said:

 Well I agree in general with your suggestion but isn't it already the idea? 0 A.D. Empires Ascendant to be the base game and expansions to add new civ from 1 to 500 AD?

The day 0 A.D. reaches the beta phase it would be an interesting topic and debate but until then... it is pointless.

nope

[Lion.Kanzen]

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In future Expansion Packs, we hope to expand the number of available cultures by incorporating additional civilizations from 1 A.D. to 500 A.D. Possible civilizations include the Germanics, Vandals, Sarmatians, Late Rome, Imperial Rome, Eastern Rome (Early Byzantines), Saxons, Parthians, Huns, Dacians, and the Goths.

 

[Ultimate Aurelian]

4 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I think we should have to make choices. Etruscans (they can fight Gauls and Romans) and Judeans (to fight Seleucids and Romans) might make sense while the other maybe not. That's just my view.

Late Egyptians fought Cyrus the Great, the Lydians fought the Persians and neighbouring greek colonies; but i can see why these would be low priority.

I am interested in the Neo Assyrians but they don't fit neither bronze age or classical antiquity; there are Assyrians in Aristeia using Persian assets as placeholders (work in that mod seems to have stopped).

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Ultimate Aurelian

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

I have added Marcus Aurelius and Emperor Aurelian as the 4th and 5th Imperial Roman heroes. Ideas for their bonuses:  

 

Emperor Marcus Aurelius

Philosopher Emperor

• "Frontier Defender": All nearby Walls and Fortresses +50% health and +1 arrow
• "Temperance": Marcus +25% more health than other Roman heroes 
• "Meditations": All remaining Technologies research instantly
• Mount: Marcus Aurelius rides his war horse Faustina when upgraded
• Soft Bonus: Choosing Marcus Aurelius unlocks the Roman Cataphract champion unit 

 

Emperor Aurelian

Restorer of the World

• "Restitutor Orbis": Emperor Aurelian +300% more capture attack than other heroes
• "Cavalry" Aura: Nearby Roman Cavalry +20% health, +20% speed
• "Currency Reform": All tax paying units and structures +20% coin trickle
• Mount: Aurelian rides his armored war horse Invictus when upgraded
• Soft Bonus: Choosing Aurelian unlocks the Roman Cataphract champion unit ; also some other units look different (3rd century armor)

Edited March 20, 2021 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

 

    

 

 

Open to suggestions for these guys.

Edited July 3, 2021 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[hopeless-ponderer]

These are really nice! It really appeals to my inner Romeaboo .

That being said, you might want to save Aurelian for the Dominate Romans, if you're planning on making them? I can understand wanting to have a more cavalry-based hero for differentiation, but imo coming after the Crisis of the Third Century makes him part of the Dominate, even if he came before Diocletian. Better choices for a solidly Principate-era emperor could be Claudius or Hadrian.

Claudius was known for strengthening traditional Roman religion against the eastern mystery cults, maybe one of his powers could be increasing the healing power of the Priests? He was also known for using freedmen in his administration, maybe he could unlock the ability to upgrade slaves into something like the Chinese minister.

Hadrian would have the same wall-building power as Aurelian, plus the ability to unlock certain Greek structures or mercenaries, since he was a huge hellenophile.

And you could add one of the bad emperors as an easter egg. Nero or Commodus could be fun to play with

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

18 minutes ago, hopeless-ponderer said:

That being said, you might want to save Aurelian for the Dominate Romans, if you're planning on making them? I can understand wanting to have a more cavalry-based hero for differentiation, but imo coming after the Crisis of the Third Century makes him part of the Dominate, even if he came before Diocletian. Better choices for a solidly Principate-era emperor could be Claudius or Hadrian.

To me, Aurelian feels a lot like a Principate emperor because of how much he promoted the pagan Sol Invictus cult. Aurelian's imperial army also still largely functioned as it did during the era of the 5 Good Emperors. I understand where you're coming from (the Crisis of the 3rd Century would generally feel like a good dividing line), but I'd prefer to depict the Dominate Romans starting at Constantine I and his founding of Nova Roma and promotion of the Christ cult. With the rise of Constantine, things really start to feel different. Things start heading down the road toward Belisarius and Justinian.

 

25 minutes ago, hopeless-ponderer said:

And you could add one of the bad emperors as an easter egg. Nero or Commodus could be fun to play with

Definitely possible as campaign or Atlas units. lol

[Lion.Kanzen]

On 08/07/2021 at 12:59 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

founding of Nova Roma and promotion of the Christ cult

Literally that was syncretism, Constantine was not a Christian.

His followers were (but that very long to relate o talk  here)

 

From the fifth century began the pagan Christian syncretism.

 

Literally the cult of Mary began in Ephesus, based on Artemis.

https://www.academia.edu/3035585/Annunciation_The_Pagan_Artemis_in_the_Virgin_Mary_Salutation_part_II

 

from there began the total break with their Judean past.

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Early Christianity is generally reckoned by church historians to begin with the ministry of Jesus (c. 27–30) and end with the First Council of Nicaea (325).

When you develop Constantine it will serve you.

[Dasaavawar]

Proposal for differentiating the civic centers ('Forums'):

As you might know, the actual Roman CC is based on the Basilica Julia (built in 46 BC, built by order of Julius Caesar).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_Julia

However, I think all civs should have at least 2 characterizing (different) buildings; CCs and Wonders.

I propose a Romans (Principate) CC based on the Basilica Ulpia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_Ulpia

'The Basilica Ulpia was an ancient Roman civic building located in the Forum of Trajan'.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_Ulpia

From the Italian entry; 'La basilica fu costruita tra il 106 e il 113' (AD).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan's_Forum

'Trajan's Forum (Latin: Forum Traiani; Italian: Foro di Traiano) was the last of the Imperial fora to be constructed in ancient Rome.' (Built by order of Trajan).

Historic reconstruction:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basílica_Ulpia#/media/Archivo:Foro_de_Trajano-planta.png

https://www.pinterest.es/pin/78179743511997614/

Artist reconstruction (taken from; https://www.altair4.com/en/imperatori/traiano/):

https://www.altair4.com/it/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/01/roma_tempiotraiano_rid.jpg

Edited August 2, 2021 by Dasaavawar

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[Dasaavawar]

Another possible special building for them:

Library:

(Library of Celsus).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Celsus

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[d34d svn]

I was amused by Delenda Est mod for a reason: The Auxiliaries wasn't the mainstay of the Imperial Roman army and i don't understand the logic behind the team's decision.

I hope someone could explain to me why the team believe this is the best way to represent the Imperial Romans.

Edited February 5, 2023 by d34d svn

[Genava55]

14 hours ago, d34d svn said:

I was amused by Delenda Est mod for a reason: The Auxiliaries wasn't the mainstay of the Imperial Roman army and i don't understand the logic behind the team's decision.

I hope someone could explain to me why the team believe this is the best way to represent the Imperial Romans.

@wowgetoffyourcellphone is the leader of the mod.

I have nothing to do with this decision, but if I can bring some info to help discuss this topic:

"The overall size of the Roman forces in Roman Britain grew from about 40,000 in the mid 1st century AD to a maximum of about 55,000 in the mid 2nd century.[1] The proportion of auxiliaries in Britain grew from about 50% before 69 AD to over 70% in c. 150 AD. By the mid-2nd century, there were about 70 auxiliary regiments in Britain, for a total of over 40,000 men. These outnumbered the 16,500 legionaries in Britain (three Roman legions) by 2.5 to 1.[2] This was the greatest concentration of auxilia in any single province of the Roman Empire. It implies major continuing security problems; this is supported by the (thin) historical evidence. After Agricola, the following emperors conducted major military operations in Britain: Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Constantius I, and Septimius Severus."

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"By the 2nd century, the Auxilia contained the same number of infantry as the legions and, in addition, provided almost all of the Roman army's cavalry (especially light cavalry and archers) and more specialised troops. The auxilia thus represented three-fifths of Rome's regular land forces at that time. Like their legionary counterparts, auxiliary recruits were mostly volunteers, not conscripts."

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"Recruitment was thus heavy throughout the Augustan period, with a steady increase in the number of units formed. By AD 23, the Roman historian Tacitus records that there were roughly the same numbers of auxiliaries in service as there were legionaries.[24] Since at this time there were 25 legions of c. 5,000 men each, the Auxilia thus amounted to c. 125,000 men, implying c. 250 auxiliary regiments.[25]"

This is simply from different articles on wikipedia.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Genava55

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

21 hours ago, d34d svn said:

I was amused by Delenda Est mod for a reason: The Auxiliaries wasn't the mainstay of the Imperial Roman army and i don't understand the logic behind the team's decision.

I hope someone could explain to me why the team believe this is the best way to represent the Imperial Romans.

What makes you think the mod make Auxiliaries the mainstay of the civ's roster?