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Hmmm...If custom bone shapes have been used in Max, then I think the bones in Blender match perfectly to them. Here's an image:

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We can apply the custom shapes to our bones in Blender using the geometry provided by you :)

However, when I tried exporting it and loading it in Atlas, it said the skeleton file is not recognizable :/ Maybe someone with more experience can check it out?

EDIT: If needed I can commit my files.

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I just want to let everybody know that thanks to Stanislas69 and Hephaestion we finally have a working armature in blender compatible with the current unit meshes. Thank you guys! I'll be posting s

Ah, I forgot ... this might be normal because of the not-fitting animation? We have a pipeline! That means if you remember how brilliantly you got to this .dae , if we can repeat it for other anim

I'm not sure if I understand the question. What happens is that by default max is set up to work with inches. You can change the parameter to meters, but that's kind of annoying since you have to resc

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Thanks guys, I had a chance to work on this a bit and I think I've found some success. The files you posted Amish had that same odd error I was getting before with the bones shooting out the back of the unit. So, I didn't spend to much time with those. I'm sure the edits you made to the mesh were an improvement. I can take a close look at those later. I wanted to focus on getting the skeleton structure into blender though. And I think I sort of got it...

Check out this file, it contains a .blend file and a .DAE file. I exported the .DAE from 3ds Max version R7 with the plugin recommended on our trac wiki. Then I imported it into Blender 2.59 which Ben suggested might work better. It seemed to work! The only problem in the animation is in the root of the animation. It also did some weird things with the bones still. They look like points and not bones in many places. But, maybe there is something in blender to alter their appearances?

Please check out the files though in your version of blender. Maybe there might be hope in getting this to work! Unfortunately I can't figure out how to add attachments (maybe I'm over my limit?). So, I'll email the file to Erik, and he can post it.

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It looks like the model is animated well in Blender, however I wonder if the scale of the unit is correct. The origin of the model is below the right arm, which could be a mistake. Sorry spotted this too late to test further today.

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I just imported it and cleared the location and rotation of the bones (go in pose mode, select all the bones and press Alt-G and Alt-R), and now the origin is in the right place, though it looks like these bones are like what I used to get when trying to import the DAEs.

Also, you should probably just delete everything but the mesh and the armature, since I don't think those extra objects have any purpose.

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I just imported it and cleared the location and rotation of the bones (go in pose mode, select all the bones and press Alt-G and Alt-R), and now the origin is in the right place, though it looks like these bones are like what I used to get when trying to import the DAEs.

Also, you should probably just delete everything but the mesh and the armature, since I don't think those extra objects have any purpose.

Nice! Could I get a copy of that .blend file after you fixed the origin. I'm not sure what your looking at deleting, but I don't think you want to delete the prop points for the model. So just be cautions of that. There are things like "nubs" that are a 3ds Max thing that could be deleted.

I'd like to work the skeleton xml file.

I selected the mesh first and then the armature, with the 'r_hand' and 'shield' bones.

EDIT: I just realized that there are no bones for the shins or the fore-arm :/

I would think they would be there, wouldn't they? Because the animation works in blender at the shins and forearms? Or are you talking about in the game after the export?

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I selected the mesh first and then the armature, with the 'r_hand' and 'shield' bones.

You have the export only selection option on? I don't normally use that.

EDIT: I just realized that there are no bones for the shins or the fore-arm :/

It does, they're just too small to see easily.

Nice! Could I get a copy of that .blend file after you fixed the origin. I'm not sure what your looking at deleting, but I don't think you want to delete the prop points for the model. So just be cautions of that. There are things like "nubs" that are a 3ds Max thing that could be deleted.

I'd like to work the skeleton xml file.

It's attached, though I already tried exporting it into the engine, and made a skeleton for it, but it keeps saying I'm referencing nonexistent bones in the biped standard skeleton...

Edit: Never mind, it's not attached...

Now it is. ;)

dude_2.zip

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I think we are getting closer! Zaggy I took a look at the blend file and your right, those props are messing up the hierarchy. So I excluded them from the export. Now the bones all come in a lot cleaner into blender 2.5. My question now is, how do I attach a ridged object to a bone to make it follow the bone? Once that is answered, the prop points just need to be attached to the appropriate bones and we can try exporting again. Please take a look and see what you think now :)

dude_3.zip

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I think we are getting closer! Zaggy I took a look at the blend file and your right, those props are messing up the hierarchy. So I excluded them from the export. Now the bones all come in a lot cleaner into blender 2.5. My question now is, how do I attach a ridged object to a bone to make it follow the bone? Once that is answered, the prop points just need to be attached to the appropriate bones and we can try exporting again.

I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but if I'm right, what you want to do is select the mesh and then the rig (in that order) and press Ctrl+P, and select "Empty Vertex Groups". What is it you're trying to attach to a bone?

Please take a look and see what you think now :)

The rig actually looks pretty normal now. D'you want me to try and get it in the game again now, or are you going to do that?

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I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but if I'm right, what you want to do is select the mesh and then the rig (in that order) and press Ctrl+P, and select "Empty Vertex Groups". What is it you're trying to attach to a bone?

Sorry, I should explain more. I guess what I'm trying to do is to... for example - attach that head mesh to the head bone, so that when the head bone moves, it will move with it. I'm not talking about doing any vertex deformations, just a ridged attach. I'd like to do the same thing with all those boxes (prop points) too.

The rig actually looks pretty normal now. D'you want me to try and get it in the game again now, or are you going to do that?

If you'd like to give it a shot please feel free!

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