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There has been a lot of discussion about Carthaginian mercenary cavalry, inspired by @Dizaka and @BreakfastBurrito_007. I would like to point out that it is not unstoppable as I stopped it in this video against a respectable opponent.

 

I have to admit that this was the 3rd game I played with Dakeyras that day. In the first, I played as britons against Carthage and I opened with a stable. Later I added a barracks but before I lacked enough spearmen, all my units were slaughtered. That build did not seem to be a workable strategy. So then we played again and I took Seleucids. I was housed 2 times before reaching 40 population and planned on getting 2 colonies, which did not do wonder either. Only the third game I got a right approach and execution.

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2 hours ago, LetswaveaBook said:

I have to admit that this was the 3rd game I played with Dakeyras that day

So you won 1 out of 3 while based on rating difference you should only have won 1 out of 5? We need an emergency thread discussing how UP Carthage is ;)

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the fact that it takes another merc strategy to beat carth merc rush actually quite proves the point that mercs are OP.

carth merc rush is not all-powerfull, there are ways to resist it, and ways to prevent it, but depending on your civ and the map/other players positions, it may be totally impossible to counter. when your best option to fight sword cav is CS spear cav, it's not fun to try to keep the pace with stronger, cheaper, and faster trained units.

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1 hour ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:

way more skill just to stay alive

We just saw an example of considerably less skill beating the strategy, well, in a healthy environment we would see a thread discussing possible strategies beating those merc sword cav instead.

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43 minutes ago, hyperion said:

in a healthy environment

This is a healthy environment right?

How does it take less skill to do what @LetswaveaBook did? I think it is worth noting how successful @LetswaveaBook's rush was and also how even it was despite the advantage he gained from it. Also, his civ choice (seles) is perhaps the best civ to counter the carth rush, because its military colonies are quite cheap, and the combination of spearmen/pikemen/javlineers is much better to counter merc swordcav than spearmen and archers will counter merc spearcav, so in each fight where he included CS infantry, he had an advantage from that.

@hyperion have you personally tried playing against this in a TG or 1v1?

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