Ramus Crudelis Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 When are we gonna see some new screenshots and I also'd like to know what major things (except bug-busting) the makers are still facing so I could make an estimation when we're finally going to be able to play this awesome game...I've been waiting since march 2004...yet I've only recently (few days ago) made a forum account...so I could find out more Ramus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feneur Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Screenshots/showcases and the like are scheduled to be released monthly (hopefully I've got to add, things don't always work out as planned and people don't have as much time as they'd want). So the next screenshot should be available early February unless something unexpected happens.I'd also like to add that there are two new History Articles posted each months (again unless something unexpected happens and the size will of course affect the number).I'll leave it to the different Departments to describe it in more detail, but there are a number of gameplay features not yet implemented (and some which have begun to be implemented, but still needs a lot of work before being useful) and quite some art yet to be made. After that has been finished there is still a lot of bugs to get rid of and testing to be made before the game is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well, in your honest opinion, do you think it's going to take the entire staff longer then 1.5/2 years to finish the game?Because it'd really feel like @#$% for a week if its going to be like Duke Nukem Forever, I was a fan of that game, reading articles every day about it, but after 8-9 years of painful waiting, I just started to hate that game and I will never buy it if it will come out in like 2050.But seriously, will I be 'scarred' like I was with Duke Nukem Forever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feneur Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 In my very honest opinion I'll say that 1.5 years is at least out of the question. That would require a miracle and a bunch of extremely skilled people added to the team. 2 years, I don't know, I wouldn't bet on it. I mean, we all hope that it will be done soon, but there's simply too much left before the game is ready to be released for us to be able to make any estimates. And also there are too many things we don't have control over, like when people have time to work on the game etc.To have something to compare with I've read that a professional team working full time takes at least 2-3 years to finish a game, we're not professional in that sense and don't have the ability to work full time. Thinking about that we've come a long way in these three (roughly, I don't have the exact date) years since the actual development began, so I do believe there's hope for the project, I just don't believe it will be finished very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd hate to say it, but Erik is correct. An indie/hobbyist effort like this takes 2-3x longer than a professional studio, if only because of the man-hours we have available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 By the way, (especially to Mythos_Ruler ) I think alot of people would appreciate it if the next showcase would be a Roman unit, an early Marian legionary or a princeps perhaps...just a tip, we've seen like 3 hellenes units now, so yeah.Vivat Roma, Roma Victor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimball Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I don't even think we've showcased any Roman units yet.. sounds like a good idea though.The problem being that we're working on art for them at the moment, particularly waiting for modelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) How do you mean that you're making art for the Romans?I thought all that was finished and what you're basically left with is to complete some gameplay key elements and ALOT of bug fixing.edit: and I've seen quite alot of Roman units in the screenshots, Hastati, Principes, Triarii, Javelin throwers, Early Marian Legionairres... Edited January 23, 2008 by Ramus Crudelis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimball Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I mean that we haven't specifically featured a Roman unit like we have with the Spartans and others.No, we're actually far from finishing all the art. We're even far from fine tuning gameplay. The engine itself is in pre-alpha phases, meaning that the actual engine is going through bug testing, not the game. We've still got a lot of art, a lot of programming and a lot more bug testing to do before we can even think about a beta release, which we plan to be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 well that answer my question quite brilliantly But, have you got any clue when an open beta might come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCobra1 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Oh! Me! Me! *Dances up and down* Pick me!Let me quote.When it will be done.Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feneur Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Unless you've got a better answer that's about how specific we can be I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCobra1 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Nah, you guys are doing an amazing job. Just the fact that the team has stayed together and the project is still going after over 5 years is a testimony to y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historicity Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 WFG Staff must be just thrilled to answer those several questions (BETA?! Release date?!) every few or so days / weeks, when a new forumer registers. Not to be rude, but if you have been checking in with WFG for a while, you should know that a release date for this game, or an open beta is strictly tentative with these guys (not that its a bad thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCobra1 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Haha! Shane, that's where WFG-oldies like you and I come in. Meh . . . gives us something to keep out post count up. Sadly, these forums are just crawling ever since '05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 People don't ask the right questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCobra1 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 People don't ask the right questions. I dub thee that one holographic projection of that one dead doctor in iRobot, Michael. What questions are we supposed to ask you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimball Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 WFG Staff must be just thrilled to answer those several questions (BETA?! Release date?!) every few or so days / weeks, when a new forumer registers. We really need to put that information somewhere. Not under the title 'FAQ', but more along the lines of 'Looking for the beta? Click here!'. Hopefully that will soak up half of the new guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historicity Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) PPE,That might anger some people...Looking for the beta? Click here!"We're sorry but the beta / engine is still a work in progress."What I mean by that is, people would be expecting that they would be able to sign up for it, and or download it.I think a simple "DEVELOPMENT STILL IN PROGRESS", or something along those lines on the front page would cover the issue. And if it still occurs, which it probably would, people need to get glasses than. Edited January 23, 2008 by HistoryGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimball Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Lol, yeah, but you know what I mean. We need to make it obvious for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feneur Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 While we could, and perhaps should, make it more obvious it clearly says "under development" on the 0 A.D. site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimball Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) In development sounds better tbh. But we really need a sort of large area of the site to clearly say that it isn't done and won't be for a while, maybe linking to a thread with details. Like where that 'Latest Articles' box is.Edit: I just another idea. What about a small banner that hovers above the page in the top right/left corner? It could be like the 'Key Features' banner and say something like 'Pre-Alpha Stage' or even with a hypothetical percentage of completion: even though that's really hard to gauge at this point, as we'd have to index pretty much everything, determine size and importance.. blah blah blah, it would better give the impression that we're not done. Whatever is going to catch people's eye so they notice immediately that it can't be downloaded yet. Edited January 24, 2008 by The Purple People Eater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 so...what percentage, would you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historicity Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 *pulls out gladius*Send him to the arena! Haven't they already mentioned they can't really give a percentage m8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramus Crudelis Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'm pretty thick.... but seriously I thought give it another try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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