Alpha 27 Pre-release/Release Candidate Build Testing

[Lion.Kanzen]

Just now, real_tabasco_sauce said:

eles have been redesigned to be more effective fighters, not just a second ram. They still do well vs buildings, but their primary role is now vs infantry.

is that now? Should be good against cavalry.

[causative]

5 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

eles have been redesigned to be more effective fighters, not just a second ram. They still do well vs buildings, but their primary role is now vs infantry.

Looks like their crush damage was cut to a quarter of its original value, in exchange for splash damage? So they aren't like rams at all anymore.

Anyway, for fighting infantry, it's pointless to pit them against 75 spearmen because that's not the army composition players actually use. Try instead a realistic army, say 80 archers and 20 spearmen vs 80 archers and 3-4 elephants (similar total cost, though in fact the elephants are more costly because metal is more valuable than wood).

[Lion.Kanzen]

I have an idea.

 

You could make it so that as it loses life, it starts to become faster and more destructive.

[leopard]

we should raise the heads of the elephants and make them look a bit more fierce.

Right now They look Fat like circus elephants.

look these

https://yatramantra.com/top-10-famous-elephants-living-in-kerala/

 

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/iBwFmF8NkE0?feature=share

female elephants are chubby male elephants are are bit strong looking.

[Yekaterina]

I agree with leopard, elephants look too fat in 0ad.

Friendly fire and splash damage? Sounds too troll!

A27 can be renamed to Troll A.D.

[Stan`]

Someone reported "I couldn't neither capture towers nor select troops or building once game ended.", could someone confirm.

[seeh]

i started test if i could capture a tower. in a game vs AIs. and in the replay i found there was no AIs playing but got this message:

 

 

commands.txt metadata.json

Edited May 19, 2023 by seeh

[Gurken Khan]

44 minutes ago, seeh said:

there was no AIs playing

I would refuse to play in your cubic hellscape as well.

During regular gameplay I could capture towers and other buildings just fine.

[seeh]

9 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said:

I would refuse to play in your cubic hellscape as well.

During regular gameplay I could capture towers and other buildings just fine.

the message told the map was not supported.

[seeh]

yes capture tower seems not possible also for me

https://youtu.be/7ykaLSkDthg

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by seeh

[Gurken Khan]

6 minutes ago, seeh said:

yes capture tower seems not possible also for me

You have to press "c" + right click now.

You know, if you only get that sword symbol, your units are just going to (try to) destroy it.

[phosit]

3 hours ago, seeh said:

i started test if i could capture a tower. in a game vs AIs. and in the replay i found there was no AIs playing but got this message:

 

 

commands.txt 166 kB · 4 downloads metadata.json 140 kB · 3 downloads

That's an two player map how did you manage to place eight players on it?

[seeh]

37 minutes ago, phosit said:

That's an two player map how did you manage to place eight players on it?

ohhh. interesting. i was don't care about the map name. i just set max players thats all.

[Yekaterina]

On a different PC, I started A27 in OpenGL mode, and I saw huge travelling waves of Mosaic patterns all across my screen. After I changed the rendering backend to OpenGL ARB and Vulkan, the problem disappeared. 

The configuration of my test bench is as follows:

• Nvidia GTX1660 with 530 driver
• Arch Kernel: Linux 6.3.2-zen1-1-zen
• 4K screen 

 

This was a minor issue and can be solved by changing the renderer. OpenGL seems to really fail for more demanding tasks such as driving a 4K screen. I think it would be good if we add a notification on the welcome screen to tell new players how to change settings to fix such problems. 

 

[Yekaterina]

A27 still hates KDE...

No matter which rendering backend I use, as soon as 0AD runs, all of my desktop effects are killed and whenever I drag the 0AD window, I get huge screen tears. Many system hotkeys also malfunction, for example the windows key and atl+tab. Even with 0ad minimised, everything else moves in a very glitchy fashion and all windows borders are suddenly turned into sharp corners...

This problem does not occur on any other desktop environments. Gnome, XFCE, cinnamon are all good with it. Just KDE...

But KDE is my favourite desktop environment, so it would be great if someone can find out what's causing these graphics problems...

 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

12 minutes ago, Yekaterina said:

drag the 0AD window

are there issues when you are fullscreen? I have screen tearing, but only on vulkan and it is fixed with vsync.

[Yekaterina]

54 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

are there issues when you are fullscreen? I have screen tearing, but only on vulkan and it is fixed with vsync.

it's not 0ad which has screentear but other apps in my system. As soon as 0ad runs, all desktop effects and graphics go super buggy. Doesn't matter whether 0ad is fullscreen or not. 

[vladislavbelov]

On 18/05/2023 at 7:49 PM, leopard said:

This Happens in OPENGL with GLSL
ARB is ok
Vulkan is ok
but OPENGL is broken

22 hours ago, Itms said:

I can also reproduce the flickering issue with A27 using the OpenGL backend. Please let me know if I can give useful information to debug this

On 18/05/2023 at 9:11 PM, Gurken Khan said:

Ah ja. Changed it from OPENGL and the flickering immediately stopped.

Could you post your user report with OpenGL enabled?

Also is it possible to record it?

[Itms]

3 hours ago, vladislavbelov said:

Could you post your user report with OpenGL enabled?

Also is it possible to record it?

Hi Vlad, here is my userreport: userreport_hwdetect.txt

I am not able to record the issue using OBS Studio: indeed, whenever the flickering happens, the frames captured by OBS Studio are blank. The capture shows the screen only when the flickering has stopped.

Instead, here is a video of my screen using my phone.

 

You can see that a few square parts of the game view are flickering. In this pathological example, a part of the dialog is missing, removing a button. The flickering always stops without intervention after a couple of seconds, then the game looks normal. The flickering doesn't always hit the same parts of the screen.

I believe the issue only happens in fullscreen, but I'm not sure. It can be triggered by toggling fullscreen with Alt+Enter, but I found that the most reliable way to reproduce the issue was to enable fullscreen in the options. With this option enabled, flickering will happen at game start in the majority of cases.

Hope this will help you.

[Yekaterina]

If you use A26, then run A27, A27 will crash with the following error: 

TIMER| modmod/styles.xml: 21.481 us
TIMER| incompatible_mods/incompatible_mods.xml: 621.521 us
ERROR: CCacheLoader failed to find archived or source file for: "shaders/spirv/canvas2d.xml"
ERROR: Program 'spirv/canvas2d' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/canvas2d'
Assertion failed: "0 <= pass && pass < static_cast<int>(m_Passes.size())"
Location: ShaderTechnique.cpp:59 (GetGraphicsPipelineState)

Call stack:

(0x55756fef282e) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x87582e) [0x55756fef282e]
(0x55756fe975ef) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x81a5ef) [0x55756fe975ef]
(0x55756fe99374) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x81c374) [0x55756fe99374]
(0x55756fe99861) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x81c861) [0x55756fe99861]
(0x55756fb92506) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x515506) [0x55756fb92506]
(0x55756fb2901d) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x4ac01d) [0x55756fb2901d]
(0x55756fb274cc) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x4aa4cc) [0x55756fb274cc]
(0x55756fe8320c) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x80620c) [0x55756fe8320c]
(0x55756fdfd740) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x780740) [0x55756fdfd740]
(0x55756fe6029c) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x7e329c) [0x55756fe6029c]
(0x55756fdcdc71) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x750c71) [0x55756fdcdc71]
(0x55756fbd5ead) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x558ead) [0x55756fbd5ead]
(0x55756fbd6529) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x559529) [0x55756fbd6529]
(0x55756fbd91c2) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0x55c1c2) [0x55756fbd91c2]
(0x55756f73270e) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0xb570e) [0x55756f73270e]
(0x55756f73733d) binaries/system/pyrogenesis(+0xba33d) [0x55756f73733d]

errno = 0 (No error reported here)
OS error = ?

The cause of Spire-V error is that you deactivated the spirev runtime mod but still trying to use Vulkan renderer. If you edit your user.cfg and add 0ad-spirv inside your enabled mods list, you can get A27 running again. 

mod.enabledmods = "mod public 0ad-spirv"

 

Hope this helps  

[Lion.Kanzen]

7 minutes ago, Sun Wukong said:

n addition, for some reason I cannot capture other people's buildings with military units. Is this also a new innovation?

Ctrl+ C

[real_tabasco_sauce]

Its just the most efficient distance, not always the same spot.

The default vs buildings has been switched to attack. Use C to capture.

[Sun Wukong]

4 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Ctrl+ C

It looks like Shift+C. But they do not respond to orders. The sword icon changes to flags, but units continue to attack the house.

2 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

The default vs buildings has been switched to attack. Use C to capture.

Now everything works.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Sun Wukong

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 minute ago, Sun Wukong said:

It looks like Shift+C. But they do not respond to orders. The sword icon changes to flags, but units continue to attack the house.

Show a screenshot and upload a replay file here.

Maybe some additional information such as the factions involved.

 

[Sun Wukong]

1 minute ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Maybe some additional information such as the factions involved.

No. It`s just "C" neither Ctrl+, nor Shift+.