Vulkan - new graphics API

hyperion · January 11, 2023

It does "inverse" stretching, ie reducing width makes stretching worse.

nwtour · January 11, 2023

42 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

Did you experience any performance difference?

Max settings, first screen of campaign :
OpenGL ARB ~145fps
OpenGL ~127fps
Vulkan ~98fps

**vladislavbelov** · January 11, 2023

9 minutes ago, nwtour said:

Max settings, first screen of campaign :

Could you try Deep forest Large?

**vladislavbelov** · January 11, 2023

16 minutes ago, hyperion said:

It does "inverse" stretching, ie reducing width makes stretching worse.

Could you try D4879?

hyperion · January 11, 2023

7 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

Could you try D4879?

Fixed!

nwtour · January 11, 2023

2 hours ago, vladislavbelov said:

Could you try Deep forest Large?

Map: Deep forest
Size: Large
Reveal map: on
vulkaninfo:
deviceName = AMD Radeon RX 6400 (RADV NAVI24)
Vulkan Instance Version: 1.3.211

glxinfo:
Device: AMD Radeon RX 6400 (navi24, LLVM 11.0.1, DRM 3.48)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.3.1

Render Vulkan: ~34 avg fps
Render OpenGL: ~78 avg fps
Render OpenGL ARB: ~49 avg fps

**vladislavbelov** · January 12, 2023

7 hours ago, nwtour said:

Render Vulkan: ~34 avg fps
Render OpenGL: ~78 avg fps
Render OpenGL ARB: ~49 avg fps

Thanks! Is that without any renderer.backend.debug*, right?

hyperion · January 12, 2023

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_solid_tex' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SILHOUETTEOCCLUDER": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_AO": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_PARALLAX": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.4"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_solid_tex'

Maybe time to update shader mod so as not to loose track which were already reported and allow me to test decent looking water. *wink*

**vladislavbelov** · January 12, 2023

1 hour ago, hyperion said:

Maybe time to update shader mod so as not to loose track which were already reported and allow me to test decent looking water. *wink*

The new version is now available at the same URL.

hyperion · January 12, 2023

30 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

The new version is now available at the same URL.

Thanks!

after update:

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_solid' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SILHOUETTEOCCLUDER": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_PARALLAX": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_solid'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_solid_tex' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SILHOUETTEOCCLUDER": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.4"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_solid_tex'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_waterfall' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SHADOWCAST": "1"
ERROR:   "PASS_SHADOWS": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_waterfall'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_water' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.05"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_water'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_solid_player' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SILHOUETTEDISPLAY": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_PARALLAX": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_PLAYERCOLOR": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_solid_player'

**vladislavbelov** · January 12, 2023

29 minutes ago, hyperion said:

Thanks!

after update:

Now should be fixed.

hyperion · January 12, 2023

26 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

Now should be fixed.

Thanks,

two new errors, the texture decode issue possibly not related to vulkan specifically:

ERROR: Texture failed to decode; "art/textures/terrain/types/india/grass_02_norm.png" Unknown error (-120101, 0xFFFFFFFFFFFE2ADB)

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_solid_tex' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SILHOUETTEOCCLUDER": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_AO": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.4"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_solid_tex'

**phosit** · January 12, 2023

I also got some errors. I just atach the interesting log.

interestinglog.html

Isn't there a bether solution than asking the users to report all missing shaders? Surely it will not be tested exhaustively and some shader will be missing in the release.

hyperion · January 12, 2023

There are some shadow like artifacts (map nubian frontier)

Which behave strangely when zooming in

**vladislavbelov** · January 12, 2023

2 hours ago, hyperion said:

two new errors, the texture decode issue possibly not related to vulkan specifically:

Updated.

6 minutes ago, hyperion said:

There are some shadow like artifacts (map nubian frontier)

Could you run the game with validation enabled?

28 minutes ago, phosit said:

Isn't there a bether solution than asking the users to report all missing shaders? Surely it will not be tested exhaustively and some shader will be missing in the release.

It'll cost too much my time now or too much space for shaders. So I chose a compromise, I believe there're not so many shaders left and I have a validation script to fill possible holes.

hyperion · January 12, 2023

51 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

Could you run the game with validation enabled?

I already do, but don't get extra output unlike with gl. Anything you want me to look out for / you expect to see?

Anyway, I opened the atlas and found it to still use gl. There I played with various textures and nubia dirt 1 2 3 but not 4 all show the same shadowing behavior, it's just a lot less obvious with gl than with vulkan. Ie less dark and can barely pass as just wet.

**vladislavbelov** · January 12, 2023

5 minutes ago, hyperion said:

Anyway, I opened the atlas and found it to still use gl.

Vulkan is disabled in Atlas, as wxWidgets doesn't provide loader for that by default.

6 minutes ago, hyperion said:

There I played with various textures and nubia dirt 1 2 3 but not 4 all show the same shadowing behavior, it's just a lot less obvious with gl than with vulkan. Ie less dark and can barely pass as just wet.

Then it seems the known problem of broken materials.

hyperion · January 12, 2023

15 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said:

Then it seems the known problem of broken materials.

Attached patch fixes it for me, tho there might be many more similar ones out there. I don't understand the issue, so I won't write a validator ...

nubia-texture.patch

hyperion · January 12, 2023

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_common' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "ALPHABLEND_PASS_OPAQUE": "1"
ERROR:   "IGNORE_LOS": "1"
ERROR:   "PASS_REFLECTIONS": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.6375"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_common'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_common' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "ALPHABLEND_PASS_BLEND": "1"
ERROR:   "IGNORE_LOS": "1"
ERROR:   "PASS_REFLECTIONS": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.05"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_common'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_water' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "MODE_SHADOWCAST": "1"
ERROR:   "PASS_SHADOWS": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.05"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_water'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_water' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "PASS_REFLECTIONS": "1"
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.05"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_water'

ERROR: Program 'spirv/model_water' with required defines not found.
ERROR:   "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE": "RENDER_DEBUG_MODE_NONE"
ERROR:   "SHADOWS_CASCADE_COUNT": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_DESCRIPTOR_INDEXING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_INSTANCING": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_PCF": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_SHADOW_SAMPLER": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_FOG": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_NORMAL_MAP": "1"
ERROR:   "USE_TRANSPARENT": "1"
ERROR:   "REQUIRE_ALPHA_GEQUAL": "0.05"
ERROR:   "USE_SPECULAR": "1"
ERROR: Failed to load shader 'spirv/model_water'

At least there are already maps not triggering missing shaders

gameboy · January 13, 2023

@vladislavbelov How do I install this MOD?

**vladislavbelov** · January 13, 2023

44 minutes ago, gameboy said:

@vladislavbelov How do I install this MOD?

First you need to download it by the link in the first message and then install just like every other mod.

Leyto · January 13, 2023

Hello @vladislavbelov, and everybody,

is it possible to test this mod with a 0AD installed through windows installer, or does it require to use the SVN version of the game?

**vladislavbelov** · January 13, 2023

3 minutes ago, Leyto said:

is it possible to test this mod with a 0AD installed through windows installer, or does it require to use the SVN version of the game?

Currently no, but we plan to make an RC relatively soon and it'll be bundled with this mod.

Leyto · January 13, 2023

Ok thanks. I guess I'll get the game through SVN, can't wait more to test it!
Should we expect some visual awesomeness/differences, or it's more a performance boost targetted with this API ? (which is also welcome of course )

**vladislavbelov** · January 13, 2023

1 minute ago, Leyto said:

Should we expect some visual awesomeness/differences

Not yet.

1 minute ago, Leyto said:

or it's more a performance boost targetted with this API ? (which is also welcome of course )

The first step is to reduce the number of driver dependent bugs and crashes and to have a more predictable performance.

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