Ultimate Aurelian
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4 hours ago, Trinketos said:
The current emblems i have(WIP).
Inca,Mexica and Toltecsa
The Toltec and Inca ones could be fully painted like mexica one.
Some references for emblems/banners:
Toltec emblem, (Based on a Teotihuacan glyph, not sure how accurate it is):
Reconstructed Inca banner (For rallypoints):
Maybe the unpainted part of the Toltec emblem could be purple or dark red ? Based on this civ 5 mod:
For Incas you could make the unpainted part of the shield a pinkish red:
Or maybe use a gold disk for emblem instead (As far as i know Incans used square shields):
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On 6/29/2020 at 6:27 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Miltiades
"Thracian Colonies"
- Civic Centers -50% build time while Miltiades lives.
Themistocles
"Piraeus Fortifications"
- Walls and Shipyards +20% health while Themistocles lives.
Been looking into addditional heroes for the other two greek factions.
Thebes could have Pagondas, Attaginus or maybe even Cassander.
For Epirotes it's a bit harder; possible choices would be Antinous (Technically a Molossian since the unified kingdom had been replaced by the Epirote league; last ruler of the region to stand against Rome.) or Aeacides.
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41 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Yeah, some kind of large round pelte would be best for Iphicrates.
Maybe change his armor as well; Unpaited leather shoulderpads look a bit simple for a hero.
They could be white with a player color pattern (Star?) instead.
IIRC i think there is already a ingame variant of that scale thorax but with white shoulders.
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On 5/26/2020 at 10:05 AM, Orphydian said:
I think the Pyrus helmet illustration was inspired by these eastern hellenistic busts attached bellow. I dont know what Pyrhus has to do with th
Maybe use a laurel helmet ?
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14 hours ago, Carltonus said:
. Fourth hero can be Archimedes, could be a healer.
Syracuse was not really linked to Athens (It was allied to Sparta and Corinth and was attacked by Athens during the Peloponessian war.)
IIRC i think Athenians have Xenophon as a fourth hero (Using Iphicrates as a placeholder)
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6 hours ago, Genava55 said:
Indeed. The influence of Mycenaean on the late Bronze Age is undoubtful and the influence of the Etruscans and Early Greeks on the early Iron Age are also very important.
The shields described by Homer are similar to the ones from central Europe as well.
Ceremonial shield from the Archaic period:
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Urnfield shield:
Descripition of Agamemnon's shield
QuoteAnd he took up his richly dight, valorous shield, that sheltered a man on both sides, a fair shield, and round about it were ten circles of bronze, and upon it twenty bosses of tin, [35] gleaming white, and in the midst of them was one of dark cyanus. And thereon was set as a crown the Gorgon, grim of aspect, glaring terribly, and about her were Terror and Rout.
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On 6/19/2020 at 6:45 PM, Genava55 said:
Very probably yes. It is the case with Mycenaean Greece as well.
It's interesting to note that the bell cuirass (Whose anatomical shape is believed to originate from heroic nudity tradition) has some similarities to some Hallstat armors:
Earliest example of that shape is in Urnfield armor:
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56 minutes ago, Genava55 said:
Although, it is a common thing in Indo-European comparative mythology (the Berserkir for example).
Do you think it could be related to heroic nudity in archaic Greece ?
I have considered that idea a couple times.
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6 hours ago, Carltonus said:
@Ultimate Aurelian: Korean mercenaries could be put in later Kofun faction.
My idea to include them was because of Jingu's invasion of Korean, and maybe for balancing their roster (In case cavalry is considered too essential).
For armor techs my idea would be to replace the more generic ingame names:
Leather/cloth Body Armor - Upagakë/Uwagake (literally "upper covering")
Wooden Body armor - Mokusei Katchu
Iron Hero Armor - Tankō or maybe ''Tatehagi Ita'' (The later is not the name of the armor itself, but of the plates).
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Just now, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
Others can perhaps find primary sources.
He is often depicted with a lion headdress, since he claimed that Herakles was his ancestor.
http://forum.alexander-the-great.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=533
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Fan-made mound builder concept for AOE2
https://www.deviantart.com/kondrikthus/art/Mississippian-Architecture-Set-Age-of-Empires-2-338494647
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On 6/9/2020 at 12:29 AM, Trinketos said:
Yes.
I am still impressed with the history of the americas.
On the topic of Lidar, there is the recently discovered civilization at Mosquitia (Not sure they have been named yet).
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On 6/8/2020 at 7:00 PM, Genava55 said:
Probably not. At least I never seen an author suggesting this. The bump seems a bit small for a fixation. Maybe it is a repair.
I was wrong about it being found alongside horns.
I mistook it for the somewhat similar Kessel helmet.
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On 6/7/2020 at 6:11 PM, Genava55 said:
It is possible there was back and forth influence between the Celts from Central Europe, the Celts from North Italy, the Celts from the Balkans and the Celts from the Pontic Steppes. Maybe with Anatolia too although it is not totally certain. The Celtic world of the 3rd, 2nd and 1st century BC is highly connected.
Indeed not only are there finds of Port helmets in the east, but there was also a find of a eastern style Montefortino in Gaul.
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1 minute ago, Genava55 said:
The Coolus-Mannheim are exclusively in Bronze while the Gelduba is in iron (yes the rust make it misleading at the first sight). And it is probably a Weisenau (Imperial Gallic) modified helmet (or a very late Port like helmet).
Do you think the Gelduba helmet had horns ?
I know it was found with horns, but not sure if they belonged to another item.
There is a bump (In red) in the side that may have been a attachment point, or maybe it's just damage.
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4 minutes ago, Genava55 said:
Sort of. I think they added this generic bronze helmet to several elite germanic units because they faced the issue of the overwhelming absence of any evidence surrounding this topic for the Pre-Roman Iron Age.
So it is not officially a Coolus but... it is like one.
It reminds me a bit of the Dusseldorf helmet but without horns.
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Just now, Orphydian said:
nah the iron one. It seems like that exact subsubvariant lol of Port/Siemenchow have to have existed. I ll have to asked more the EB II about this helmet and better images for it
It's also possible that they speculated and gave them a similar helmet from other region.
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1 minute ago, Orphydian said:
I see that as a simplified Siemechow type isnt it ? actually I like the general shape more than the original finding
You mean the bronze one ?
I think it's likely a Coolus variant (There are no examples of bronze Port helmets); although Germans did sometimes remove the cheekguards on looted helmets.
This is a Roman helmet modified by Batavians:
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41 minutes ago, Orphydian said:
what exact variants of celtic helmets are they wearing?
These are Lugians (Celticized eastern germanics, ancestors of the vandals).
The iron ones are sometimes called Port helmet; they were more common in Gaul but there are finds of them in the east like the Simiechow helmet.
The bronze one is a pretty generic; it seems to have a lip on the back so maybe it's a Coolus.
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13 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:
I do see a resemblance. Perhaps influenced by Galatian mercenaries and the 3rd century BC Gallic invasion of Greece.
That typology of Celtic helmet shows up pretty late (After Galatian invasion), perhaps the Gauls copied hellenic helmets from Massalia, Carthage, maybe Rome as well.
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On 5/13/2019 at 12:26 AM, Lion.Kanzen said:
Maybe we could use this mirror as a civ emblem ?
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Can we give macedonians some love?
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Are not rams getting a big nerf in the next version ?