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Here's a link: http://en.ordalies.com/?PHPSESSID=8qb8umr8gnpvop8akvhre53jf6.
It's all about Germans in 5th century AD.
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Romans
They have the Army Camp, which is an interesting structure, as it can be built within enemy territory. Same goes for their Siege Walls. So, how can we make these things more useful and used more by good players?
Marian Reforms: Can we include this somehow? Becomes available in City Phase and once researched all infantry turn into Marian Legionnaires (champion infantry)?
Could we have the Romans start each map with a free Temple of Vesta and then give it some kind of bonus (like greatly increased unit and building stats around it)? Maybe then it is a game-loser for the Roman player if it is destroyed.
The Romans seems to lack auxiliaries like skirmishers, archers and cavalry when they achieve Marian reforms.
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What about Ptolemaic Egypt? Where's the evidence?
IF?
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Try to imagine if you're the Ptolemaic King who desperately need soldiers loyal their cause but have money and land.
Why would they raised mercenary archers from Nubia while Cretan mercenaries can do better and their loyalty are guaranteed?
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Archers were such an ethically varied group of people in the Ptolemaic Empire. I don't think archers should represent only one group of people, but its not wrong either that Nubian archers were involved. Plus I kinda like the mercenary feel of buying them from the town center. If only I could play the game again.
Oddly all scholar find no evidence that Nubians or any other people like Ethiopians appear in the Battle of Raphia or any other battle.
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So then, it actually looks like the name should be adjusted. Ethiopian Archers? Kushite Archers?
It would be better the team make them as Editor-Only-Unit and re-introduce Cretan Archers back into Ptolemaic Army.
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Nubians even have serve as Mercenaries to the Post ancient era Egypt.
There were a number of large Nubian kingdoms throughout the Middle Ages, the last of which collapsed in 1504, when Nubia became divided between Egypt and the Sennar sultanate resulting in the Arabization of much of the Nubian population. Nubia was again united within Ottoman Egypt in the 19th century, and within Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from 1899 to 1956.
The name Nubia is derived from that of the Noba people, nomads who settled the area in the 4th century, with the collapse of the kingdom of Meroë. The Noba spoke a Nilo-Saharan language, ancestral to Old Nubian. Old Nubian was mostly used in religious texts dating from the 8th and 15th centuries AD. Before the 4th century, and throughout classical antiquity, Nubia was known as Kush, or, in Classical Greek usage, included under the name Ethiopia (Aithiopia).
AFAIK, not as archers in Ptolemaic period.
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Is there any evidence that Nubians served as archers for Ptolemaic Army? because i can't find any evidence at all!
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Check this out: http://www.tollundman.dk/vaaben.asp
And : http://www.sagnlandet.dk/English.425.0.html
Its all about ancient Germanic/Norse warfare, hope it helps.
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I've found some article about camels in Persia, the article suggest it was the Parthians not the Achaemenids use camels as pack caravans thus making 0 AD camel caravan invalid.
Here's the address, hopefully it helps.
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the evidence is too soft, even weaker than the persian elephants!, only used duriig the battle aganist alexande the great!
and the towered elephants of carthage, with a strong evidence in the battle of zama, very late to be useful aganist rome
i tthink, that we can deny access to elephants during a time, or create as hidden unit
hidden unit means that is only accesible by editor
Please visit: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/e/roman/texts/ammian/home.html or http://www.armenica.org/history/en/overview/avarayr.html.
The Roman and Armenian authors could proved that Sassanid have war elephant.
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The Sassanid army have allies but not all of them are permanent.
Arab Kingdom like the Lakhmids was a staunch ally for the Sassanid Empire until the reign of Kosrow II.
Others : Chionites, Hephthalites, Armenians and Turks, sometimes friendly but sometimes hostile due to the Empire's diplomatic policy.
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Frankish units from Restitutor Orbis:
1. Ðruχtiz Buγōn-arHwō = Bow and arrow war band 2. Jugunthiz Wrakjōnes = Young warriors 3. Slenγanan Folkan = Sling folk
1. Swerðan Harjaz Hreop-Wehren = Sword army of the Ripuarians 2. Ðruχtiz Hreop-Wehren = Ripuarian warband 3. Swerðan Saljon = Salian sword companion 4. Wrakjōnes Saljon = Salian warriors
1. Kjóll Swerðan-Ango Frisōnes = Sword and Angon Keel of the Frisii 2. Ðruχtiz Swerðan-Akwiz Frisōnes = Sword and Axe war band of the Frisii 3. Wrakjōnes Hattisku = Chatti warriors
4. Wrakjōnes Wargengus Hattisku = War steward of Chatti
1. Yaiðō Gadulingaz-Aþalaz = Noble Spear Companions
2. Gadulingaz-Erloz Hreop-Wehren = Companion Earls of the Ripuarians
3. Wrakjōnes Akwiz Wōđinaz = The Axe Warriors of Wōden
4. Gadulingaz Aþalaz Druhtinaz = Companions and Nobles of the King
1. Ridanz Wargengus Saljon-Hreop-Wehren = Steward riders of the Salii and Ripuarians
2. Ridanz Wrakjōnes Tencterōnes = Warrior Riders of the Tencteri
3. Ridanz Haimaz = Chamavi Riders
Ridanz γazðaz Hreop-Wehren = Pike-riders of the Ripuarians
Húsa Gadulingaz Sicambrōnes = Horse companions of the Sicambri
Húsa Gadulingaz Stranγaz = Mighty Horse Companions
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Will the Scythians included in the set of fraction?
Faction Symbol
Infantry
Steppe spearmen (inf.Spear)
Scythian axes (inf.Axe)
Scythian Skirmisher (Inf.Jav)
Steppe foot archers (Inf.Bow)
Scythian archers-Hellenic (Inf.Bow)
Cavalry
Skirmish Cavalry (Cav.Jav)
Steppe horsemen (Cav.Spear)
Scythian heavy cavalry (Cav.Spear or Cav. Sword)
Champions
Scythian-Hellenic hoplites
Bodyguards Scythian king
The cavalry of the Royal Scythians
Scythian royal infantry
Heroes
King Athey
Siege
Ram
Ships
Rook
Special Buildings
Not found
Wonder
Stone grave Scythians (they say there kept most powerful and terrible weapons of the world)
Is these stuff legal?
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Here's an article about Sassanid war elephant: the-rise-of-the-sassanian-elephant-corps.pdf
Hope you guys like it.
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You seems eager to merge Celts and Germans together.
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How about imposing quota on certain champion unit? So that we could solve the problem of having too much champion unit.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Many sources we have are weak and many others are lost. I'm in noway claiming that they certainly used them, but since some sources say they were used for display of power and others that they were actually used in combat, it could be true and even be more common than that. You seem a little overly eager to act like an absolute expert on this which you don't seem to be (unless the language barrier doesn't let me see it someway). Also (3), that would prevent them from using infantry as well since it's slower than elephants (I know they mostly focused on cavalry, don't get me wrong). And a mixed review doesn't always mean much.
Anyway we're just making suggestions for a (possible) future addon, and the team will deside. And you probably know more on Parthians than me, I'm just saying don't eagerly take something for granted cause it seems this way, especially when there are some serious doubts.
Edit: I think the most valid point for including them, even if the sources don't prove common or even certain use, is gameplay. The Parthians will lack troop variety compared to most other factions.
Edit 2: The Europa Barbarorum team on RTW modding, known for their insanely good research, give the Parthians Elephants.
Parthian infantry served as camp follower and guards during a military campaign, while in peace time they served as gendarmes to protect towns and cities from infiltration, raids and possibly invasion but not field battle.
If you cannot confirmed it then don't add it. AFAIK scholars have a good grasp on the Sassanid elephant tactics and its purpose but if Parthian have elephant corps then they would develop a certain kind of tactics and strategem against the Romans or other neighboring tribes and empires. If the Parthians have raised an elephant corps and use it against the Romans, the Romans will certainly know its existence and develop new tactics against these fearsome beasts.
Which is why the Romans could exploit the Parthian's weakness because Parthian lacks a wide variety of troops.
Unless you have conquered Pakistan in EB campaign map or custom battle, but mostly they cannot confirmed whether the Parthian have an elephant corps in Mesopotamia or not so the Parthians in EB cannot recruit war elephants in Mesopotamia and Syria.
Maybe you could propose a new mini faction: Indo Parthians, where you could add war elephant in the Indo Parthian army.
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What about the Gladiators?
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(provided that all this isn't made up or mistake by the author, which I doubt but can't be sure).
In fact the a review from Amazon doubt the accuracy of the author's so called "facts" and "informations".
http://www.amazon.com/War-Elephants-John-M-Kistler/dp/0803260040
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Unfortunately, the Parthians never consider war elephant as the instrument of war because:
1. the cost to maintain an elephant corps was unbearable due to the Parthian poor financial management.
2. Logistics too proved to be a daunting task for the Parthians to maintain an elephant army since the Parthians was bad on logistics.
3. Speed was important for the Parthian army and war elephant didn't have speed thus making them useless on the battlefield.
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Evidence?
If the Parthians did deploy war elephants against the Seleucids, why don't deploy against the Romans?
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Parthians (or Arsacids) and Sasanians
in General Discussion
Posted · Edited by Mega Mania
No, but the Parthians prefer to use cavalry as the instrument of offense instead of infantry, unless the enemy have threatened the very existence of the Empire itself or else these infantry will always be camp followers, urban or fortress garrison that keep the border safe from the Romans or the nomads from the steppe.
If you wish to know more about Parthian army and its recruitment procedure, you may visit: http://www.academia.edu/2523094/Was_there_no_paid_standing_army_A_fresh_look_on_military_and_political_institutions_in_the_Arsacid_Empire.
Or if you need more accurate information about the Parthian army and its successor, you may look for this: http://www.amazon.com/Immortal-Military-History-Armed-Forces/dp/1589012585/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_d_1, although it have a few chapter about Parthian Empire and its successor the Sassanids but it have simple but accurate information about its armed forces.