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  1. What about slingers, they seem quite capable of taking down elephants. How does champion infantry perform? Sure that's absolutely true, but just realize that most people don't see the game as some sort of mathematical equation. Casual players tend to be roleplaying, pretending to actually run a small kingdom, build a "city", raise an army, defeat their dreaded enemy in glorious combat, while taking in the views and such. Not looking at stat sheets. The game needs to be intuitive. Some tangential stuff: The other day I played a +2 hour game with some noobs that barely understood how to play. But they seemed to be having a lot of fun, just building their little settlements. There wasn't a single real battle in the entire game. I also just followed que and built a lovely little city, just for fun. There was literally no point to this game whatsoever. Yet it was one of the most relaxing games ever... A lot of people play like that. I've introduced the game to a number of real life friends and even relatives over the years and none of them ever play MP. They just enjoy casual fun, spending hours on a single map, building their perfect little town, enjoying the beauty of the maps and admiring the 3D models from all angles. They just want options and variety, even if they're not very useful, or even not useful at all. On the top of their wishlist are things like roads, different types of, walls statues, temples, monuments, plazas and gardens and other beautifications and unique buildings and stuff like that, and large unit rosters, functional formations and plenty of researchable technologies. Like, a lot. Some of it, more realistic or feasible than than the next. Stuff that would be utterly irrelevant to MP, but could still, to a degree, be accommodated in the game without compromising MP balance. It doesn't need to be all or nothing. It's possible to create a very full game that satisfies most casual desires, while still offering the more streamlined experience for competitive players just by virtue of them knowing which units and tactics are good for winning competitive matches and ignoring the rest. The casuals don't care about a few underpowered units or useless, frivolous buildings, and really expensive techs that no sane person would spend resources on in a competitive match. On the contrary, they love the availability of choice. Not: realizing that they've built, recruited and researched everything they could in 30 minutes or less. Don't get me wrong. The game should absolutely be well balanced. But it should also be intuitive, and facilitate this kind of roleplaying fantasy through immersion. For example, competitive game speed is too fast (almost stressful) for casuals, but not fast enough for competitive players. Unnaturally fast moving units, or superspeed animations are really immersion breaking for casuals. It's a really big no-no, but competitive players always want it even faster. But the game-speed can be manually adjusted, so this shouldn't even be a problem. The default speed should obviously look natural, not unnaturally rushed, because it looks weird and even stressful. Competitive players often have a different idea of fun and intuitive gameplay, and often loose sight of what is fun and intuitive (and immersive) for casuals, and that's something important to keep in mind as well. As for the historical accuracy part, I often see unhistorical (and unintuitive) stuff slip through, while very juicy historical details that could make every tech tree unique are more or less ignored. I think we should just get together and make a list of possible historically inspired techs and then pick and choose from them.
    5 points
  2. Hopefully this thread can address a few of the complaints I have read there: I won't go into details about the others yet. Personally I'm fine with the gameplay being slower, including unit movement speed. Sometimes in a23 I had the feeling maps for teamgame were quite small, the enemy could be reached very fast (in bigger map size settings was not an option due to lag). Now with the slower movement this looks more like AoE2 in term of 'map size feeling', and I think this alpha puts more emphasis on map control in general, something I felt was missing in a23. Regarding a balance patch mod, there are a few problems with that. - Potentially difficult to get people to use it - Very easy to disagree with the changes there - Most importantly, it will necessarily diverge from the changes of the new a25 version. First of all, a number of the changes that would go to the balance mod would not be changes that can get in the next version of the game, due to consistency and historical accuracy requirements. Secondly those changes would be more like a patch, and not enhancements to gameplay, which is still an objective for the next version of the game (= more divergence). Thirdly, engine changes can affect how the game is played. All in all, those points will make it so that the balance reached with such a patch will have to be thrown away for the next version of the game, so they could end up not being helpful for tuning the a25 balance. To end this post, I would like to point out that the state of the balance of this a24 version has not been figured out yet (see the thread I linked to have explanations and examples). I also think like @Nescio that we should give it one month or two before being too critical with this new version. There are a few things I don't like of course but all in all I think a24 is an improvement.
    4 points
  3. Sometimes it's so much fun modelling an eyecandy .... Learning about array, mirroring and so on ...
    4 points
  4. Here are some results from tests done one year ago. #Protocol - 50 games 1v1 on mainland with a set of predefined (random) seeds, for each couple of civs, both players positions test - players are AI - tested on a fork of zeroad #Win-Loss results For each couple of civs, we compute the difference between number of wins and number of losses. In that context: - rome, brit, gaul are far ahead - kush, mace, pers are far behind There is perhaps an high civ unbalance or it is related to the way the AI use them. #Trading score There is the potential bias that it's easier to trade when wining the game. Pers, despite losing a lot of game, shows high trade income. That reflects there high trading bonus. #Trained support citizen #Trained infantry cavalry ratio From AI point of view : - Brit, sele, ptol look like cavalry civ - Athen, spart look like infantry civ #Siege and champions Elephants are counted as champions. It's strange that mace that is expected to be a siege civ don't produce a lot of siege. Kush and maur don't have siege units. One can notice that maur gained some by capturing an enemy structure. AI may miss something or the civ is too late at phase 3. Enjoy! PS: That's a quick approach, there was some extreme games messing the means.
    3 points
  5. All archers have a reload time of 1 s in A24. The proposal to give all heroes the same health ( https://code.wildfiregames.com/D2682 ) was abandoned; instead ( https://code.wildfiregames.com/D3250 ), healer and infantry heroes have 1000 health, cavalry heroes 1200, elephant heroes 1500 in A24. That's possible and that was actually done in the past. If I recall correctly, @Grugnas and @Hannibal_Barca both wrote balance mods for A22 and @borg-, @Feldfeld, and @ValihrAnt each did for A23; there might be a few others too. Mods have advantages (can be quickly changed, easy to use, suitable for playtesting) but also their limitations (unpredictable lifespan; opaque decision-making process; tempting to include unrelated changes); basically they stand or fall with their author and mostly reflect the vision of a single person. What changed during the development of A24 is that people who used to write their own mods decided to become more involved and participated in proposing and reviewing patches on Phabricator. Yes, a lot has changed in A24, and sure, not every single change may have been an improvement. Nevertheless, the fact there is change is in itself already progress. A24 isn't perfect, it's very much a work in progress, and right now people will need time to get used to the new version. However, I sincerely believe A24 as a whole will be considered to be a better product than A23 by the vast majority of players in a month or two.
    3 points
  6. It's going to sound a lot less dense because the original sounds used lower-fidelity recordings that were centered heavily in mid frequencies. The new sounds were recorded from scratch using professional equipment and so make use of a larger range of human hearing. By definition, it is going to sound less dense. Compromises between authenticity and convenience are important. In the bronze age, sword-on-sword combat was not technically possible due to how poorly bronze holds an edge (it would quickly dull or damage the blade to strike them against metal), so the 'shing' cutting sound is totally unrealistic... however, it does do a very good job making the swords sound different from spears and everyone knows that is the "sword sound", so I added it back into my 2nd draft sounds for a24. Javelins too do not really make such whooshing noises, but it again serves the game. We will probably be increasing the volume of many of these sounds you have commented about for a25. The problem is, the actual sound files themselves are not at a consistent volume level now, so we need to go back and re-process all of the sound files consistently before we start tweaking everything. a24's sound balance was done by ear over the course of a few games I played to get a playable, workable balance, even (and especially) when there are 200 units in a single battle, which can get quite loud. Changes were made to logging/lumbering to ensure it was slightly more consistent and also remained sufficiently different enough from new, much better building sounds. I liked the original lumber sounds too but some of them were very strange sounding; I might go with a hybrid approach, layering the two sets of sounds together, like I did with the sword attack sounds as discussed in the paragraph above. Here are some comparison videos of the lumber and build sounds:
    3 points
  7. Sound attenuates with distance like real life. The further you zoom out, the quieter things become. Pre-A24 this was not done; 0 A.D. behaved like a 2D game, with all sounds of equal loudness no matter where they were on the screen. This was a basic flaw with 0 A.D. which meant that at far zoom, people mining on the other side of the map would be audible at 100% volume. Not only was this acoustically completely wrong, it caused sound to be extremely cluttered, with a sheer overload of equally loud sounds. You hear mining, but is it the miners right in front of you, or the miners on the other side of the map? Is it the tower in front of you shooting arrows or the enemy TC 1000m away? Now sounds at the top of the screen which are more distant will sound more distant and quieter, which creates a clean and enjoyable separation. The distance attenuation we are using is a fraction of real life, so sounds are audible much further away than they would be in real life, but it is still audible at normal zooms. [[Edit- A quick aside: we could redo the sound attenuation so it attenuates sounds farther from the camera more than closer by the same amount regardless of camera height, meaning the overall sound level would be the same regardless of zoom, but this isn't something we've discussed or explored yet, so I have no idea how good or bad this would be; just a thought.]] Now, I should note we are still working to balance the sounds a bit. There was a major audio bug where certain sounds where playing several duplicate times, which causes them to become greatly amplified (and massively wasted sound channels). This has been fixed, but as a result the balance of audio from before was completely broken. I spent a few hours tweaking sounds to be closer to a good balance, but it will need more work, and that is what a25 and the SoundsMod project is for. My goal with a24 was just to fix the most outdated or flawed sounds and then try to get the balance of sounds at least reasonable, even if not perfect, and I accept that there are sounds that are not quite balanced right yet. One other result is that battles will have a much larger dynamic range. Before the sounds would run out of channels so they would self-limit with more than ~50-60 combatants. Now each unit on each attack should only use one sound so larger battles should be even louder. Here are the old battle sounds, with the same fixed audio engine (i.e. what 0 A.D. would sound like if we kept the sounds the same): Now here are the new battle sounds: Not only are the new sounds to me audibly louder overall, they are also much clearer and less muffled without being irritating. If you want a battle to be immersive, zoom in a bit! Battles cannot be immersive at 500 m... that would be silly. You would not expect a concert to be immersive if you sit in the very back row... you would not expect a TV to be immersive if you're sitting two rooms away. When you play a city builder, you would not expect to hear people chatting on the streets when you zoom out 100's of meters, so I don't get why you expect a battle to be immersive if you zoom out a bunch here... The bow sounds are the same volume as other games, compared to their combat sounds. I compared the sounds to original AoE I-III, the AoE DE's, and a number of my favorite, more obscure historical RTS (Celtic Kings TPW, Empire Earth, Cossacks, etc.) and found that the bow sounds are appropriately less loud than melee weapon sounds. Many games have even quieter bows (like AoE III as Stan said, as well as AoM, which accurately depicts bow impacts as louder than bow shots), while others are about on par with these. In real life, bows are almost silent. They are designed that way intentionally and have been since their invention, because it is a hunting tool first and weapon second. We already are massively exaggerating the sound of bows to make it appeal to the Hollywood idea that bows make some massive whoosh when you fire them, and of course to make it easy to hear them when enemies are attacking which is an essential gameplay mechanic of the sound. I hope this answers some of the questions you have had about the sounds. They are still a work in progress, but the whole point is to improve them. Feedback is definitely welcome but we also have to make sure we are designing the sound without holding onto existing conceptions. It is easy to become stuck in Confirmation Bias, where the more familiar seems better, even when objectively it may not be.
    3 points
  8. hi guys i gonna list some positive updates in a24 and give few suggestions too 1- outpost is more realistic now but it needs vision update too. suggestion: for "vision update by 100 wood" better to increase height of the outpost (like tower update) to make it more realistic. 2- decreasing number of women on fields. suggestion 1: better to set fields capacity to 3. because its annoying for a player to spread women of a full field to other fields. suggestion 2: why corrals are steal useless? i think better to put a button in corrals that make sheeps automatically (and also a button to pause this ability) it leads players to use it more. 3- elephant stable 4- in a24 its easy to make chams 5- different languages for any civ that makes the game more realistic. suggestion: idk about other languages but some of persian phrases are ridiculous. for example "bale in chie ? بله این چیه؟ " this phrase means "yes! what is it?" that does not make sense. it makes me laugh. or "amade آماده " that means "ready" but this word is a public word. better word is "befarman به فرمان" that means "ready for commands". also the phrase "sarbaze shoma سرباز شما" for women should be removed because it means "your soldier" and all know women are not soldiers. 6- stronger towers, but it has weakness too. because it avoid players to play aggresive. but at least it does not makes towers useless in p3 like a23. 7- no heavy weapons in rome camp 8- no dance 9- vision in p1 10- women can build towers barracks etc.
    2 points
  9. hello, 0ad is using xmpp client as proxy for requests to connect and answers from host of the match. everytime you host the match in lobby, there are logged all usernames who asked you for ip and port regardless if they got it or not (there was no password, there was wrong or correct, all cases are logged). you can see them in mainlog https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/GameDataPaths. look for "XmppClient: Recieved request for connection data from" please also note, once you join host, host can see your ip
    2 points
  10. @Stan`@Alexandermb@wackyserious@Mr.lie@Sundiata Blender 2.92 is released https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-92/
    2 points
  11. Stans mod package made it work. And i quite like the metal shine.
    2 points
  12. Well kushite camps can be built in neutral territory, so I'm fine with them right now. If I am not mistaken for Carthage there is a larger embassy, not currently used in the game. We can replace the 3 embassies with the bigger one, which could train all units, and maybe increase the construction limit.
    2 points
  13. We didn't in fact it was slightly worse from what I recall. We did include a 15% perf improvement due to incorrect polling though. https://code.wildfiregames.com/D2919 According to wraitii though spidermonkey 91 will have a bigger boost.
    2 points
  14. Thanks @Samulis for your hard work, even though I feel it's not comfortable the new sounds indeed are way more realistic and show more refinement.
    2 points
  15. This "metal detecting" shader keeps getting better. Even as I work in the new shader, once in a while I use the current shader (I mean MY current shader, the metal one), as a test bed for ideas, as well as for my gaming pleasure. I just added two very, VERY subtle effects to human skin: An emissive 0.01 red added glow just to account for body heat; and a sort of emissive 0.03 red glow modified by shadows AND by sunColor, but not modified by view angle or light incidence; in other words a very slight and primitive sub-surface scattering effect. Together with Fresnel gloss this keeps making skin more and more natural-looking. In the shot below, it is hopeless to try and notice these things, but when the women go into the shadow of the trees or come out into the sun, you do notice a hint of translucency, barely noticeable, but it makes a world of difference. The perception of translucency is from the fact that the shadow side of the arms glows a tiny bit brighter when the arm is hit by the sun on the other side. Look at the woman in the sun, and at the two women in the shadow of the trees. Do the women in the shadow look a bit "cooler" than the one in the sun? It's very subtle, but it's there. And the Fresnel highlights of skin happen at particular moments, at particular angles, hard to catch in a screenshot, but when they happen they also add a ton of realism. None of the women in the image are catching the sun in a specular way at the moment I got this image capture, but the men mining metal did catch some rays. You people don't know what you are missing. Yes, there are things you can criticize about this metal and skin detection hacks shader, but the benefits far outweigh the costs, and it is a FUN shader that keeps surprising the eye, such as by putting metal particle glints on the "metal" rocks for mining; an unintended but highly beneficial "bug". So far, as far as I know, NOBODY has ever even looked at this shader; nobody has tried it. They just look at the still pictures I post, and they lean back on their armchairs and criticize... Most of the benefits are dynamic; they cannot be appreciated from still images.
    2 points
  16. Try Maury with then p2 ele stables that count for p3. Instant p3 eles. Also, ele archers are hahahahahah. Want to know what tops Maury off? Build a heal priest hero and "walk through military upgrades." You do not even need a fort to build a priest now. With priest you get 20% discount and 50% speed on upgrades for garrisoned building. If you have 2 blacksmiths and a temple, you can hop between buildings and upgrade pretty fast. With gather elephants you can gather metal pretty much everywhere on map. Add the pop bonus (signficant at 200 pop) and you got yourself the making of an easy win. Maury TL:DR: Archers Elephant Archers Elephant stables count for p3 in p2. Always build 2-3 in p2. Heal Priest Hero can speed upgrades significantly OP population Let's not forget range upgrade for archers. Also, Seleucids with their ele dmg hero paired with cav archers. Evilness.
    2 points
  17. A very strange opinion for a historical RTS, imo. It's also empirically true that the vast majority of players aren't competitive multiplayers, but casual players who love to build walls for a variety of reasons. Anyway it's clear that the game's balance still needs some work, and that civilizations need to be diversified more, but as I understand, that was always in the works. Alpha 24 was just a first big, and necessary step towards addressing some longstanding gameplay issues, laying a foundation for future work. Also, the lobby isn't exactly an official discussion platform for game dev. I can understand it's a good place to get some quick feedback from competitive players, but if your serious about development, you should use either the forum or https://code.wildfiregames.com, so that whatever is discussed is archived and easily retrievable and reviewable. Lobby discussions are far too perishable, and probably too biased towards competitive play. I mean, I'd hate to wake up one day to a 0AD without walls because I missed some random lobby discussions. Just my two cents.
    2 points
  18. That answers a lot, thanks for the insight Samulis. I agree the sounds are more diverse and differentiated now. I think that's particularly good for late game and cattle breeding (which was very irritating). The javelin, bow and stone thrower sound more realistic now. In the game itself, I would find the faster and clearer perception of ranged fighters important. Why? Because I don't notice that a fight is taking place in town and need my attention. I lose more units and that's frustrating. Here the gameplay aspect would be more important to me. Especially for area damage. Furthermore, the sound is new. That takes time to get used to. Simply as current feedback, the atmosphere now feels less direct, less dense. For me, the sound and the atmosphere are very important to be able to experience. At the moment the game feels indirect and distant instead of being in the middle and experiencing it. At the moment I can see the long-range fighting noises on the one hand, and the sound of the logging that was previously denser on the other. And first of all, thank you for your work.
    2 points
  19. I'm publishing on mod.db the first launch of the mod with the Incas, this mod will be with no gameplay changes, in the future the pre colonial will be launched in which the Incas will be included with the gameplay changes proposed by @Trinketos https://www.moddb.com/mods/incas-0ad
    2 points
  20. Classical (Attic) Greek won't be of help in this case, since all words starting with an upsilon are actually aspirated (i.e. start with hy-). It's alien to Latin too. Nor do I expect much from Gaulish, since the few words that survived were written in Greek or Latin alphabets. Therefore we should look east: the y is used for transcribing many languages. I'm suggesting Yaunā, the Old Persian word for Ionians, Macedonians, and Greeks, which seems to me a nice follow-up to Xšayāršā (Xerxes). If, however, the Han make it into the next release (), then we can also use Chinese, giving more options to choose from.
    2 points
  21. Hello, I want to inaugurate this new A24 replay section by dumping a few of my multiplayer replays, showcasing the new unit balance and the increased diversity of units that can be reliably trained. I have a feeling sometimes players don't make use of all tools available to them. Champions, trade and siege (3v3).zip This teamgame showcases a lot of different unit types, but notably champions swordsmen, some champion archers, some trading, catapult+ballistas attack, and camel archer lategame composition on the other side. Roman sword cavalry champions (3v3).zip Features roman sword cavalry champions, quite a powerful unit. Cavalry and champions (3v3).zip Features sword infantry champions from Seleucids, cavalry compositions from mauryan and ibers (with a few firecav champions) Archer cavalry and roman champion cav (3v3).zip A teamgame that shows those 2 units in action. Valihrant (Koushites) vs Feldfeld (Mauryas).zip Small rush early game. Features town phase CC expansion, archers and elephant archers from Maurya, against archers and nuba skirmisher cavalry from Koushites Valihrant (Mauryas) vs Feldfeld (Macedonians).zip Features town phase CC expansion from macedonians. Skirmishers and champion infantry spearmen from mace against chariot archer champions from maur. Valihrant (Macedonians) vs Feldfeld (Athenians).zip Features a moderate early game rush. CC expansion from macedonians in the town to city phase transition. Gastraphetes from mace against slingers + ballistas from athenians. Feldfeld (Ptolemies) vs cl2488 (Ptolemies).zip Features mercenary swordsmen and mostly slingers against pikemen and slingers. StarAtt (Iberians) vs Feldfeld (Carthaginans).zip Features mercenary cavalry from Carthage. ElDragon (Kushites) vs Feldfeld (Carthaginans).zip Features village phase expansion from Carthage, with a composition of Sacred Band infantry supported by archers later. Archers and pikemen/spearmen from Kushites. You can download all replays bundled here: Feldfeld's replay dump.zip Hopefully that can address a few of the complaints I have read about the new version. For example, the diversity between civilizations has been reduced, yes, however keep in mind to compensate that the new balance between units should make some civilization specific strategies (eg. a unique champion, mercenaries) viable whereas it was not the case in A23 (which was notably a lot of slinger spam). About archers being OP: yes it is true that they have a very good accuracy, possibly making them OP, but they are less efficient than other ranged units against melee units (which have been improved in this version). Remeber there are other options than making citizen soldiers ranged units. Of course this doesn't mean we won't find OP units in the future. Champion melee cavalry look quite strong, champion archer cavalry maybe too.
    1 point
  22. hi guys. i wanna say some reason that why alpha 24 is not good. 1- sound is not good. when u fight u even cant feel it because action sound is hard to hear even if u put it to max from settings. a23 had very nice sounds i have no idea why devs changed it. 2- there r low differences between civs now and its not interesting. in fact if civs r almost same the game will be boring. in a23 there r enough differences between civs. 3- economy of a24 is terrible. a23 had much better economy. why devs changed it ? in a24 its hard to reach 200 pop and u r always run out of wood. 4- a24 is less realistic. for example how possible catas and rams cant atatck soldiors ? its really boring. and how possible bowmen r able to destroy catas and bolts ? 5- the game is still laggy. i even think lag in a24 is more than lag in a23. its why many players prefer to host 3v3 games and avoid 4v4 games. 6- in a24 u r less able to rush. no rush no fun. rushing makes games more realistic and thriller. i think a23 is much better than a24. in fact a24 is like a different game. when i play it i dont feel im playing 0ad ! im looking for new game ! any suggestion ?
    1 point
  23. I had some ideas, it's not a complete suggestion but maybe i can get the discussion running:) Right now there are only 3 kind of diplomatic relations, which are Neutral, Enemy and Ally. I think it might be nice to add "unknown", as I've seen people many people requesting here on the forum. Further, right now all three diplomatic relations are balanced. Adding uneven relations, like Vassal state / Hegemonic state could add some dynamics to the gameplay. The idea is, that when you have heavily damaged an opponent, you can make him your vassal and focus on other opponents, while still being able to have some control over him. On the other hand the vassal has the opportunity to come back to power in later game. As far as i see in alpha 24 there are three variables to be controlled, which are whether attack is possible, shared vision and shared dropsites. More possible variables could be: Territory invasion: Make it unpossible to move units into another players territory (unless support units). This could also prevent some sneaky moves Continious tribute: Paying a percentage of all gathered resources (not at once, but like out of 10 wood gathered 1 goes to the hegemonic power) Production ban on siege: Make it impossible to produce rams, catapults etc In the end this could look like this: This is only a basic idea, other ideas are welcome:) Allied and team might be one too much, out of Protectorate and vassal state one might be enough too. Historical correctness might be improved. So far all relations only have effects between the two parties, maybe an effect on the relation with others is desired, like abolishing trade with a third party and so on
    1 point
  24. It's just a zip file, they like to complicate things. One thing you could do is provide a pyromod file Then anyone with 0ad installed can double click to install it for their game basically it's a zip file renamed to .pyromod. It's exactly the same folder structure you use in the public mod. here is an example. dan-shaders.pyromod file structure DAN-SHADERS | mod.json | \---shaders \---glsl model_common.fs model_common.vs terrain_common.fs water_high.fs
    1 point
  25. Well maybe keep the embacies limited, but that one could make 2 or 3 of every embassy per game so that players can at least make units a bit more efficiently in contrast to other civilisations? To make 3 Iberian, 3 Italian and 3 Celtic embassies for example, that would really help out, and it wouldn't be like you could make 10 so it would still make sense to have them separated from barracks because I think that is a great diversifying mechanic for carthage, but maybe a little bit too nerfed a the moment I understand the historical perspective about resource gathering, but I was thinking - if they were part of the army they sure did help out a little, like chop down some wood for camps before the battles idk - myb limit resource gathering for wood only, and make it like 0.30? I mean, mercenaries are not as strong as champions are, and both do not contribute economically, but take pop space equally.
    1 point
  26. Maybe civilizations with great mercenary potential like carthage, can train level 2 mercenaries instead of 1 like other civilizations, it's just an idea.
    1 point
  27. Feels like A24 = borg expansion pack + balanced civs + refined graphics + nerfed siege pathfinding When will A25 be released?
    1 point
  28. Actually, I just improved the shine on the skin, by toning it down with what I call "purity" in the new shader, namely the % of influence of the Fresnel reflecting layer. For a car-paint, purity is 100%. For a plastic it can range from 40% to 75%. I found about 60% does the trick for human skin. Otherwise it looks like it's got oil on it. Even making the shininess low, it doesn't work, as it makes the skin look like it's in shiny nylon. The only way to tone down the shine is by dialing down the % of the surface participating in Fresnel specularity.
    1 point
  29. Yes, we're still working on balancing sounds after we fixed some big bugs in the way sounds were being used that resulted in all of the sounds no longer being balanced. Expect more in the SoundsMod github project and of course a25. Unit selection and confirmation sounds have not been adjusted at all since a23, only really gather and combat sounds.
    1 point
  30. This is too hard. I got a level of darkening... sort of under the water rather than above it... ...and what it took to get there is unspeakable. These are the last few lines of getRefraction() { ....................... float term1 = clamp( 0.9999*worldPos.y - refrWorldPos.y, 0.0, 1.0 ); float term = pow( term1, 240.0 ); float temp = clamp( term, 0.0, 1.0 ); vec3 mulfactor = vec3(0.382 * temp + 0.618); return vec4(mulfactor*refrColor, alpha); } It took a lot of experimentation to get there, and I've no idea why the numbers work. A power of 200 doesn't work; but 240 does ... I think I'm banking on some arithmetic error; this probably shouldn't work at all. Of course I was trying to get a smooth function, but just couldn't make it work. And every attempt at lowering the water level through optical tricks failed. And I mean, I did get to lower the water, but the bottom went down with the water, leaving the land floating a few feet above the water like they have antigravity technology... Might work for Atlantis... I'd better get back to work on the new shader.
    1 point
  31. Looking good! Want some tips for blender? When mirroring and doing array duplication on organic structures use the displacement modified with some white noise on the geometry, will look more hand made. For textures don't forget to have specular maps and baked normals form a higher resolution model. Also you can add a new texture layer on top and use the paint brush with some dirt texture to for example create some dirt and color variation. The first time will take you some 30 min to learn but after that I should become quick. I don't know how is done with the new interface as I only used texturing in the old one.
    1 point
  32. You're welcome. I think the extra 10 hp of the dogs should be removed. It should be enough to start.
    1 point
  33. Not to be petty, but I and several other of the top players commented quite a bit on a thread or spoke to devs in the lobby about it. One player and some of the devs, none of which I have ever seen play the game, thought the idea should be implemented. All the other players thought it was a very bad idea. Nonetheless, the revision was implemented. As a result, I decided not to bother commenting on other revisions since my opinion (and the opinion of several other top players) clearly didn't matter. I spoke to other players who commented and several others expressed similar feelings. What you propose is great. But a near consensus shouldn't be ignored lest you invite commentators to become disillusioned and withdraw from the process
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  34. Well, to say that it is a mistake p1 dogs because a much better player than you killed many units of yours, is not a valid point. If you lost 100 units to 20 dogs, the problem is with your skills I think, no offense. Dogs are extremely vulnerable, you can make towers, palisades etc.
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  35. HP bonuses don't have to impact champs. We should be able to exclude those. Or just adjust their HP lower so it doesn't have as large of an impact. For example, most (all now?) champs are only available in p3. So a HP bonus from p1-->p2-->p3 shouldn't impact a p3 unit's HP. Regardless, this was only one suggestion. I also like the idea of changing defensive constructions to be less op. I still like giving phasing HP bonus, but it isn't super necessary. Overall, I like the balance changes. Based on what I currently know, I wouldn't change much in terms of unit stats. Yes. Ptol bonus is still nice, now. Just less significant of a difference than before. And free houses with ptol is just one example of how I think civs should be modified to be more different. Other possible reversions would be something like giving celt their building pop bonuses giving siege factories only to mace keeping worker else for mauraya (and maybe giving it building abilities back) I like walls/towers for iber I like cav health bonus for persia/sele (so I would take this away from other civs) I like kush pyramid bonuses I like rome camps and would give it siege again to make the difference more pronounced I liked skirati exp. bonuses for sparta and I think this was nerfed too much Carth and athens could use better differentiators imo carth champs from temples might be a fine strat with champs being a more viable strategy. I haven't tested this athens basically is no longer unique in any way?
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  36. This is an alpha release (after 2 years), not a monthly gameplay patch for a Gold-released AAA game. Expect large changes.
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  37. ig9icd32.dll!71ce6c7d() Inconnu ig9icd32.dll![Les frames ci-dessous sont peut-être incorrects et/ou manquants, aucun symbole chargé pour ig9icd32.dll] Inconnu ig9icd32.dll!7176f06b() Inconnu ig9icd32.dll!71e4fd5d() Inconnu ig9icd32.dll!71f452f8() Inconnu pyrogenesis.exe!CShaderProgramGLSL::Bind() Ligne 515 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CShaderProgramGLSL::Link() Ligne 390 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CShaderProgramGLSL::Reload() Ligne 494 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CShaderManager::NewProgram(const char * name=0x00c220e4, const CShaderDefines & baseDefines, std::shared_ptr<CShaderProgram> & program={...}) Ligne 272 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CShaderManager::LoadProgram(const char * name=0x00c220e4, const CShaderDefines & defines) Ligne 69 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!`anonymous namespace'::GetOverlayLineShader(const CShaderDefines & defines) Ligne 53 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!OverlayRenderer::RenderTexturedOverlayLines() Ligne 448 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!OverlayRenderer::RenderOverlaysAfterWater() Ligne 425 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CRenderer::RenderSubmissions(const CBoundingBoxAligned & waterScissor={...}) Ligne 1399 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CRenderer::RenderScene(Scene & scene) Ligne 1714 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CGameView::Render() Ligne 240 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!Render() Ligne 240 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CGame::ReallyStartGame() Ligne 319 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!ProgressiveLoad() Ligne 309 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!Frame() Ligne 394 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!RunGameOrAtlas(int argc=1, const char * * argv=0x0130b418) Ligne 692 C++ > pyrogenesis.exe!SDL_main(int argc=1, char * * argv=0x0130b418) Ligne 743 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!___delayLoadHelper2@8() C [Cadre en ligne] pyrogenesis.exe!invoke_main() Ligne 90 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!__scrt_common_main_seh() Ligne 288 C++ pyrogenesis.exe!CallStartupWithinTryBlock() Ligne 365 C++ kernel32.dll!777ffa29() Inconnu ntdll.dll!77aa76b4() Inconnu ntdll.dll!77aa7684() Inconnu Try disabling GLSL and postprocessing.
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  38. I don't have lag, what if I see is that gameplay is kind of slow.
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  39. Did u ask yourself why many players didn't like a24 and got back to a23 Also I think a game should be developed in a line, unfortunately devs broke the line and made something new, even strong players r learning the game again... Also they mostly didn't like it. About archers they r too strong. They even kill spears and pikes easily. Really hard to counter them. Now archer civs r crazy strong Just image many units try to destroy seigs like rams that r supported by many archers. That poor units r easy target for archers then they die easily. I even feel devs removed the random for archers attack or at least decreased it!
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  40. Short answer. Nope! It's even worse than before.
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  41. I wouldn't say that XD. When I've sended ~100 units they were walking in a very very long line then when they reached their goal they started to rotate like clock hands. It was pathethic to watch. Lastly most important thing 4vs4 is now unplayable. Yesterday we were playing (nani, juarca, etc) and it was impossible to play. For sure lag is bigger than at prev alpha. Also one more thing. Chop chop chop wood for the win lol.
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  42. Certainly any feedback is very useful (mainly what is wrong), but it is fair to bring some improvements too, like: 1 - stronger cavalry 2 - ranged units weaker 3 - champs back to the game 4 - spear cavalry attacks correctly now 5 - cant dance 6 - hero cannot be trained after dying 7 - melee units chasse easer 8 - formation works better etc.., etc... It seems to me that there are more positive changes than negative ones, so I think we are on the right track. What I can recommend to you is to keep playing and maybe have a different view.
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  43. Saying that you don’t feel playing 0a.d doesn’t make sense because 0a.d isn’t a ready game, it’s constantly changing, but I understand that, it’s been a few years playing the same version, it’s normal to feel different, but you can get used to it with the changes. Anyway, we can bring some necessary changes back in a25.
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  44. True. I feel like the unique gameplay mechanics that every civilization had in alpha 23 has been exchanged for a more generic version that is a fit-for-all that imho makes it less interesting.
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  45. There could be two seperate ranks ? One for 1v1 and one for TG ? But I also agree TG ranking should use more than win/loss to get established, like the KD; eco and so on... or we need a OP AI to analyze the game ^^
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  46. Hi! First of all, congratulations to everyone who contributed to this new 0 A.D. Alpha release. I confess that I imagined months ago that this release would be something smaller (few changes) and I was totally wrong. And that's good! Thanks again to the community of contributors this awesome release became a reality. That said, I would like to ask about the bug related to the previous installations mods. Is it possible to implement something that prevents this from happening in the next 0 A.D. versions? In addition, it would be great if there was a beautiful and explanatory interface for selecting mods, advising which are compatible, which are not, descriptions etc. Something suitable for novice users, not assuming an experienced player. By the way, congratulations on the map selection menu. Great feature! Regards!
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