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On 6/11/2020 at 3:16 PM, m7600 said:

@Ultimate Aurelian Duly noted, thanks.

Here's how they start the game, with walls like the Iberians. I'll have to fix the textures though, and the models I made are a bit crude, gotta keep working on them. But I think this screenshot conveys the general idea.

Some references for gates:

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They are a bit small and don't seem to have had doors; for gameplay purposes i'd keep the same general shape but make the gateway larger and put a palisade gate inside it.

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@Sundiata No worries, glad to hear that you're ok! We're living in a crazy time right now. Over here we're still under strict quarantine. I'm sure you have a lot of things to contribute, but right now there are far more important things than videogames. Oddly enough, one of the reasons why I keep working on this mod is because it keeps me sane, in the middle of all this crazyness...

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Update on the background, it's still a work in progress. I'm just trying to improve the composition at this point. There's still a lot to do.

Screenshot from 2020-06-21 15-03-20.png

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40 minutes ago, m7600 said:

Update on the background, it's still a work in progress. I'm just trying to improve the composition at this point. There's still a lot to do.

Screenshot from 2020-06-21 15-03-20.png

If you want to add player color in the checkered texture; it would be better to make the grey part player color.

The black part is supposed to be empty space between bricks:

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The Kingdom of Zimbabwe was according to this map landlocked. However, the Zambezi river flows through the country, as well as several other rivers. The Zambezi ends up in the Indian Ocean.

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source: https://www.themaparchive.com/great-zimbabwe-c-1000.html

Zambia fishing boats:

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source: https://artofsafari.travel/what-to-do/luxury-safaris-zambia/lower-zambezi-national-park/tiger-fishing-zambia/

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Drinking, fishing, washing, transporting: the Zambezi River provides many services for resident people in its basin (photo credit: ETH Zurich/Elisa Calamita/Davide Vanzo)   

source: https://blogs.ethz.ch/ETHambassadors/2019/05/23/understanding-the-role-of-big-rivers-in-africa/

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source: https://kevdieenglesman.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/zambezi-tiger-fishing/

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source: https://www.internationalrivers.org/blogs/1104/the-zambezi-river-drained-bone-dry

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source: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-local-people-fishing-village-zambezi-river-caprivi-namibia-africa-30529047.html

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source: https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/foto/zambezi-fisherman-lizenzfreies-bild/1075568204

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source: https://neweralive.na/posts/fishing-moratorium-effected-in-zambezi

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source: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-local-fisherman-zambezi-river-kasane-caprivi-namibia-africa-travel-30529071.html

This boat type is called Makoro. In Zambia they still make them out of wood.

source:https://vimeo.com/74689659

Great Zimbabwe did occupy parts of Botswana. Dombshaba is evidence of their reach.

I think the Makoro should be the fishing boat of the Zimbabweans.

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According to Wikipedia the Kingdom of Zimbabwe had many Asian and Arabic goods. That means they needed to get them by ship.

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The Kingdom of Zimbabwe controlled the ivory and gold trade from the interior to the southeastern coast of Africa. Asian and Arabic goods could be found in abundance in the kingdom. (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Zimbabwe)

The  monsoon 'trade winds' allowed merchants to travel between Asia (especially India) and East Africa.

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The regular pattern of the monsoon winds in the Indian Ocean allowed for traders to plan their trade routes south and north along the East African coast:

  • Kaskazi (north-easterly) December to mid-March
    This wind took traders south along the coast, blowing from the northeast to the southwest for approximately 4 months.
  • Transitional period mid to end March
    A short period of change between Kaskazi and Kusi
  • Kusi (southerly) April to mid-September
    This wind allowed traders to head up north along the coast. A mainly southerly wind blowing for approximately 6 months.
  • Matalai (transitional period) mid-September to mid-November 
    the change of wind from Kusi to Kaskazi - a period of rains and little wind.

source: http://kenya-coast.com/en/item/the-east-african-monsoon-winds

 

The following map shows the trade routes. Many of them went over the ocean.

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Makoro are good for fishing, but not long distance trade routes. For trading dhows where used. There are several different types of dhows, some for fishing some for trading.

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source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhow_znz.jpg

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source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhow01.JPG

Baggala (large dhow):

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source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sd2-baggala.JPG

Dhows should be the trading vessels for both the Zambians and the Ethiopians. As both Kingdoms where connected by the same trading network.

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21 minutes ago, balduin said:

Dhows should be the trading vessels for both the Zambians

I don't think the Kingdom of Zimbabwe ever stretched to the coast. I think dhows might be inappropriate for them.

The Kingdom of Mutapa, successor of Zimbabwe, did actually stretch to the coast and ruled Sofala the main port of the region. The actual sailing was done by resident Swahili's from the coast. 

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Here's a different problem: what names should the Zimbabwean heroes have? I have failed to find any names of their rulers or military leaders. It would seem that they have been lost. Or maybe I haven't searched thoroughly enough.

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21 hours ago, Sundiata said:

I don't think the Kingdom of Zimbabwe ever stretched to the coast.

Yes, you are right.

 

21 hours ago, Sundiata said:

The Kingdom of Mutapa, successor of Zimbabwe, did actually stretch to the coast and ruled Sofala the main port of the region.

Yes, you are right again.

However, unless you implement the people from the Swahili coast, what ships should the Kingdom of Zimbabwe have?

One trick would be make them mercenary ships from the people of the Swahili coast.

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