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Well, if we are to have a ranking system that system should mean something, and if people will just leave the game without consequence if they are about to receive a lowered score - then what's the point of it?

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Its not always about the rating, but quitters just wasting my time. If they don't want a rated game then they can say that before the game starts, or not play rated with others from the get go.

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There are various reasons for the rating. I'll just give at least two:
1. Stat-padding - Some people just love stats, and get their self-esteem from that. When they realize that they're losing, they quit (or try other means not to reduce their rating).
2. Looking for Challenges - Competitive players want to play with other competitive players. And ratings help them find each other.

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I agree with @sphyrth, while ranking is kinda broken at the moment it's still a reasonable measure if a player is decent or not, while not a guarantee that a 1400- user is nub it is that a 1400+ player is not 'cosmic'.

Another reason is that for tournaments and other limited roster events it's the official way to get in, e.g. I got only second bracket games for all SPG weeks (which means I had to play Valihrant and borg-in my first game) even after going from low 1400s to high 1500s. While I would certainly not have won later brackets I would have enjoyed being able to get there.


It helps with TGs where even if a host does not know you, he can see that you're not a cosmic. Cosmic players are unreliable, they quit games out of the blue or as soon as are rushed, they provide nothing more than a light deterrent for the opposing team in the best case scenario. In 1v1s they are more likely to quit rated games. Even if you are a good player, if others don't know you, you'll be put in the same category as above.

After I got 1450+ I noticed that the rate of 1v1 quitters has decreased dramatically.

My recommendation is that even if you don't care about ranking or 1v1, getting out of the 1400- will benefit you a lot.

This does not mean you need to be one of those 'rating farmers', players who stay online all the time fishing for 100+ rating difference players to crush and which claim to have 'skills only' but chicken out at any slight challenge. If you're a good enough player, can boom when necessary (p3 200 pop in 14- min) while also knowing how to not panic and throw units away when rushed or even perhaps scouting and rushing yourself, 1500-1700 would be the range where I'd expect to see you. That said, unfortunately this is the range where you find most inconsistency in player skills per rating, very good players in the low 1500s and borderline decent players at 1600+.

Also an interesting thing I noticed is that when I actually started caring about rating for SPG I started noticing more subtle details of gameplay that would give me an edge, had to learn how handle more competitive players and strategies for which I was unprepared before, and got a better insight on game sense.

The rating also keeps me accountable, I care for it, but not as a number to be optimized but rather as a symbol of what it means: do I multitask, rush, scout, boom, know more different civs and strategies as other players in the same range? If not, look for good players in that range and play them, learn what is missing and get better, it's fine to get a lower rating if it means you're evolving.

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21 hours ago, Juleferie said:

Well i don't see why you Basiliskos @Tramite have to put my name up without any proof of your claims, Juleferie has not quit a game since 1929! 


But in any case i would like to report Basiliskos for quitting two more rated games against me. 
@user1@Hannibal_Barca 
 


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now are u lying hahaha u are a quiter and because of that i quite

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1 minute ago, Tramite said:

now are u lying hahaha u are a quiter and because of that i quite

I am not the one with multiple replays against me. You haven't even give a shred of proof of your accusation. 
Mucho ruido y pocas nueces!

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I have started to play the game recently and I have seen many times that I win a match but the rating does not change because the other player has left the game.

Reading on the forum I found that other players have the same problem. Is there any way to fix it that I'm not doing?

 

 

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I have read that players that quit without resigning should be reported here:

+----------------+------------+
| player         | date       |
+----------------+------------+
| UWND           | 2019-12-13 |
+----------------+------------+
| Insignis       | 2019-12-13 |
+----------------+------------+
| ITALIANEMPEROR | 2019-12-08 |
+----------------+------------+

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28 minutes ago, ironbar said:

I have read that players that quit without resigning should be reported here:

+----------------+------------+
| player         | date       |
+----------------+------------+
| UWND           | 2019-12-13 |
+----------------+------------+
| Insignis       | 2019-12-13 |
+----------------+------------+
| ITALIANEMPEROR | 2019-12-08 |
+----------------+------------+

yes you can.

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Hi @ironbar,

you would need to provide replays of these matches, else moderators do not have the proof that happen.

Look here where you can find replays https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/GameDataPaths.

 

To answer the question, it is mainly because games are not hosted by wildfire games servers, only multiplayer lobby. That means during the match all network transition is only among players and observers in that match. So bot taking care about rating does not know someone wins, looses until game is won and result send to servers.

 

Bigger problem connected with this is that there is no way currently to punish if host of the game leaves without resigning as he is the one sending results to the servers. If he exists (without resign), closes application, kills process, shutdowns computer, disconnects from internet on purpose, there is no way how to send that results to servers.

 

Have a nice day and enjoy the game :)

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@ironbar

Hello. I understand you have several reports to make about ratings match disputes.

Please, we must receive the replays of the incidents.

I'm going to link you to the official thread for reporting this type of incident. Refer to the instructions on the following page and make your incident report there.

 

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