Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded

The Role of Women in 0 A.D.

Recommended Posts

 

5 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

@Genava55 German women.., what sbout our Suebi germans?

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/tacitus.htm

Probably female priest and maybe some female units giving bonus (aura) to motivate neighboring warriors. 

Edit: sorry for the poor choice in the url, the website is not really recommended, it comes from Google search. 

Edited by Genava55
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

Quote

For the Romans, ethnographic observations were often a by-product of campaigning. All the more is it noteworthy that Roman historians repeatedly delve into descriptions of the warlike nature of Germanic women.

The most common involvement of women in combat seems to have been in the defence of the wagon fort. Germanic tribes used laagers to protect their baggage and sometimes also as a defensive tactic in itself. For example, at the battle of Adrianople (378 AD), the Goths formed up behind a circular ring of wagons.

A Celtic Laager by Nick Speller and Simon Miller, made to be used for Simon's To The Strongest rules - visit his blog to find out more!

Quote

When an army was beaten and the enemy moved against the wagon fort, the women and sometimes even the children entrenched there often put up a fierce fight. Plutarch writes about one of Caesar’s battles against the Helvetians:

“After a long and hard struggle he routed the enemy’s fighting men, but had the most trouble at their rampart of waggons, where not only did the men themselves make a stand and fight, but also their wives and children defended themselves to the death and were cut to pieces with the men.” (Plutarch, Life of Caesar 18)

Scenes like this seem to have happened often, as they can be found in several sources. This of course if not surprising if one considers that surrender would have meant slavery at the best.

Quote

Apart from their role as a last-ditch defence, at least among some tribes women also seemed to have had an active role on the battlefield. Cassius Dio, in his Roman History, describes “women’s bodies in armour” found among the corpses of the “barbarians” after a battle Marcus Aurelius won against the Marcomanni, a Germanic tribe. Marcus Aurelius also had ten women in male armament, who had been captured among the Goths, in his triumphal procession.

Intriguingly, apart from written sources, we also have archaeological evidence for Germanic warrior women. In an overview of bog corpse finds, the archaeologist Alfred Dieck drew attention to several female bodies found with weapons. For example, among eight bodies found in a site in Germany and dated to around 350 BC, three were young women equipped with shield, sword, spear and bow. All of them had died of wounds that indicate combat injuries. Corpses of women dating to the Roman imperial period have been found which were dressed and armed like men and which had been killed by sword thrusts. Dieck relates another find of spear- and sword-carrying women killed in combat from the 3rd century AD to the Goths in Marcus Aurelius’ triumphal procession, providing archaeological corroboration to the historian’s description. All in all, Dieck’s list contains twelve such finds up to the 6th century BC – who knows how many more might turn up?

https://wargamingraft.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/germanic-warrior-women/

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Edit: sorry for the poor choice in the url, the website is not really recommended, it comes from Google search. 

I don't see the problem. There planty of sites with worst info.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Obskiuras said:

So we have to create special female units like chanpions or female citizen soldier with a special aura that inspire  men to fight harder

I don't think a very widespread female unit is correct historically. But I see three possibilities that are more or less credible:

  1. A call to arms function to give weapons to female workers.
  2. A female priest with aura both for healing and fighting bonus.
  3. A female East Germanic champion inspired by Aestii and Przeworsk burials, giving fighting bonus.
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

by the way the history is cyclic.

Can be give to them give a defensive bonus, in any of defensive structures.

 

 

 new articles used with political missinformation is saying this.

https://www.tor.com/2014/09/02/female-viking-warriors-proof-swords/

 

Sounds more propagando to watch "vikings" in 2014.

Butthe true the study means settlers not warriors.

Quote

Although you can already see by the study’s abstract that it’s dealing with settlers and not specifically warriors (we originally talked about settlers when we first covered the story), Wilson dug deeper and uncovered a very small sample size, as well. What the study did do was look at the remains of viking settlers and find that determining the sex of the remains based on what they were buried with is a faulty method, which is where all the talk of “being buried with their swords” comes from.

How many sets of remains did the study examine? Thirteen. In a comparison with other sites of Norse remains that had sex determined by the objects buried with them (which could have been buried with them for many reasons), a site sexed by the bones instead of burial goods showed a much higher ratio of female settlers at six female sets of bones and seven male. Wilson quotes the study:

Another important implication of the osteological sexing results is that Norse women appear to have been present from the earliest stages of the migratory process, rather than, as the commonly held theory has it, arriving as part of a second wave after the great army had started to settle the homelands it had conquered.

Just to make it clear that we are not going to get carried away by these waves of sensationalism from the press over scientific articles.

 

My point again was promote the cart as defensive unit. I trying to remember some article...

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...