Lion.Kanzen Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Whatever you do, please keep the old files, lol. Perhaps in the future the civic center actor phasing can be implemented (or the old files used for an Imperial Rome civ). the fact i was suggesting keep and add more Basilica building for eyecandy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Whatever you do, please keep the old files, lol. Perhaps in the future the civic center actor phasing can be implemented (or the old files used for an Imperial Rome civ). Well you can keep a copy but I'll move it to old public most probably. The game is getting hug with all the added actors Also nothing's really lost you can just revert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Make a deactivated variant, easy to copy and switch if needed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Well it should be in an imperial roman folder so... I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Split into his own topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 11:36 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: what about mix comitium with that? they both are compatible an stairs and behind Basilica Semptriona For a generic civic center, the idea to use the comitium of Paestum is a good one. This is the thing having the more sense, because this comitium is itself "generic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I'm afraid the front part will be either too massive or too small... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 @Juli51 you can help us? please. esta tarea sin un buen dibujo es un poco complicada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) On 5/28/2019 at 7:38 PM, Stan` said: I'm afraid the front part will be either too massive or too small... In Rome, the Basilica is next to the Curia and to the Comitium. In Cosa, the Comitium and the Curia are closer and are next to the Basilica as well. Maybe a possibility to do something with these three buildings. Other proposition, in Fregellae the building with the Curia seems bigger: Edited June 5, 2019 by Genava55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 @Genava55 What about the upper part with some props in front ? I'd like to be square like the other cc Or this maybe (the main structure). Link to the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 there are several options. especially with the building in front of the seating tier. 1. see if it fits and add to the square other elements of the Plaza. 2. lengthen the building and fill it with elements of a Roman plaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Original concepts 5 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: there are several options. especially with the building in front of the seating tier. 1. see if it fits and add to the square other elements of the Plaza. 2. lengthen the building and fill it with elements of a Roman plaza. The goal is also to reduce it, I believe the front part is as big as the current CC in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Stan` said: The goal is also to reduce it, I believe the front part is as big as the current CC in the game. yes I know that, but must be a perfect square? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: yes I know that, but must be a perfect square? Well it must fit in a 8x8 foundation.https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtScaleAndProportions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Stan` said: Well it must fit in a 8x8 foundation.https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtScaleAndProportions About that, why all squares? Wouldn't it be better to have e.g. a 4×8 instead of a 6×6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, Stan` said: Well it must fit in a 8x8 foundation.https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtScaleAndProportions yes. second time you say that. and I know about the scale. I don't said either this will be easy. @Genava55 we need found more examples and possible decorations(aesthethics, toscan columns.) @Stan` the second idea (that you give) its probably the best way... less accurate but fix all problems. I had already thought of splitting the seating section in half and attaching it to another structure. both ideas you use semi seating section as you show. not to many seats... isn't a theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Nescio said: About that, why all squares? Wouldn't it be better to have e.g. a 4×8 instead of a 6×6? Standardization is key to recognizability. It's low key why you want tall thing in back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Lion.Kanzen said: isn't a theater. It is this https://cepranocity.wordpress.com/2018/10/13/il-santuario-di-esculapio-maf/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Standardization is key to recognizability. Yes, I fully agree with that, all structures of the same type ought to have the same shape and size, regardless of civilization. However, that's not what I meant; my question is why only squares are acceptable. Ideally, different structures would have different shapes and sizes. Now have a look the Briton barracks and temple: same size, similar design, require more than a single glance to identify what it is. Or compare elephant stable and centre. Wouldn't it be better to say barracks is 6×6 and centre 8×8, but temple 4×8 and elephant stable 12×4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Oh I gave the art design document link so that it could be updated. In the end we should have a blocking model for each building like the ones @LordGood did for the range the stable and the workshop. Typically the corral should be like 4x8 or something like that. I haven't checked so I took the smallest square size. It's by no mean an absolute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 If there is the necessity to adapt, twist and reinterpret the buildings to suit the square format of 8x8 civic center, why is it really a problem to do the comitium? I give suggestions according to the historical evidences but an artistic interpretation and some liberty in the final model does not bother me. Here a suggestion to propose solutions and not only problems: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 My problem with the Comitium is that it's ugly and would look weird for a Civic Center. But I'm not the artist, he or she can really do what they want. I think the new Roman barracks needs redone too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: My problem with the Comitium is that it's ugly and would look weird for a Civic Center. But I'm not the artist, he or she can really do what they want. I think the new Roman barracks needs redone too. This is a honest point of view at least. I prefer when people are saying what are bothering them. Thanks. So the other possibilities are the Basilica Fulvia Spoiler Basilica Sempronia. Spoiler Basilica Opimia Spoiler and Basilica Porcia Spoiler Edited June 7, 2019 by Genava55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Opimia looks good with some stairs in front (semi circular). the rest is plaza props and some kind of fences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 19 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: My problem with the Comitium is that it's ugly and would look weird for a Civic Center. But I'm not the artist, he or she can really do what they want. I think the new Roman barracks needs redone too. I'm with wow here. Though my argument would also be that the scale will look wrong. One will have either a to small area in the middle too few steps or too tiny ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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