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Hi @Nescio and @Itms,

I have finished the Unit Listing and am attaching it now. I only found two items that did not have a "Specific" name, a Kush Bireme and Maur siege ram.

I'll start working on the in-game documentation until I get some input from the developers on what they need. I am still kind of searching to find out what exists already.

If you have any ideas or wants just let me know.

Thanks,

Dok

Unit Listing Alphabetical.txt

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17 minutes ago, Doktoreus said:

Kush Bireme

Kush Bireme is a Ptol placeholder unit without a specific name for now. We need a large Nile boat to replace it ( @Alexandermb :rolleyes: :P )

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@Doktoreus Thanks again!

@Sundiata The other Kushite unit specific names are correct?

@Genava55 Do you happen to have a list with corrections and suggestions for the Briton and Gaulish specific unit names?

@stanislas69 Could you move these three posts (starting with 367549, the one with the txt file) into a new “unit specific name review” thread?

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24 minutes ago, Nescio said:

@stanislas69 Could you move these three posts (starting with 367549, the one with the txt file) into a new “unit specific name review” thread?

I'm not stan, but also can do this ;)

Do you want to get it merged into

or shall I create a new topic?

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2 hours ago, Nescio said:

@Sundiata The other Kushite unit specific names are correct?

They're correct, but they are missing proper diacritics for now, so I'll go through them again and adjust where necessary. I'll post an updated list here when it's done.  

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10 hours ago, Imarok said:

I'm not stan, but also can do this ;)

Do you want to get it merged into

or shall I create a new topic?

Maybe it's better to have two separate topics, one for structures and one for units.

8 hours ago, Sundiata said:

They're correct, but they are missing proper diacritics for now, so I'll go through them again and adjust where necessary. I'll post an updated list here when it's done.  

Great!

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Hi @Sundiata,

I am updating the Kushite civilization profile page in the design document and noticed that there is no specific name for the bireme. It is shown as "Light Warship" in the game itself. Do you have a suggestion for a specific name for this bireme?

Thanks,

Ralph

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All Greek units fixed!

Please review and give criticism and comments so we can reach agreement and submit.


My primary items for critique:
1. I chose ἁρμάμαξα Harmamaxa for catafalque, since that is what Diodoros 18 chapter 27 uses for Alexander's catafalque. It means "covered chariot" like the model shows. (Before it was named for Athens "Solon"?? Macedonia: "Philip V"? "Ptolemy III Euergetes (Benefactor)"?? "Antiochus I Soter (Savior)"?? "Lycurgus"?? - do you want me to rename them Harmamaxa Solōnos/Philippou B'/Ptolemaiou G'/Antiochou A'/Lykourgou?)

2. Rhomphaiaphoros I corrected to Rhompaiophoros ῥομφαίοφόρος ?

3. Toxotēs Skythēs Σκύθης replaces Toxotēs Skythikós.

4. Gastraphetophoros γαστραφέτοφόρος 'crossbow-bearer' - seems legit but not sure about this one. (Before it said "Toxotēs Skythikós"??)

5. Hippotoxotēs Nabataios Ναβαταῖος is used for 'Nabataean Camel Archer', for Appian in his Syrian Wars (which appears to be the main source for special/exotic unit names in 0 A.D.?) says:

.... ἱπποτοξόται τε ἐπὶ τοῖσδε ἕτεροι, Δᾶαι καὶ Μυσοὶ καὶ Ἐλυμαῖοι καὶ Ἄραβες, οἳ καμήλους ὀξυτάτας ἐπικαθήμενοι τοξεύουσί τε εὐμαρῶς ἀφ᾽ ὑψηλοῦ, καὶ μαχαίραις, ὅτε πλησιάζοιεν, ἐπιμήκεσι καὶ στεναῖς χρῶνται. δρεπανηφόρα τε ἅρματα ἐν τῷ μεταιχμίῳ ....

.... There were also other mounted archers from the Dahæ, Mysia, Elymaïs, and Arabia, riding on swift camels, who shot arrows with dexterity from their high position, and used very long thin knives when they came to close combat. Antiochus also placed scythe-bearing chariots in the space between the armies ....


6. why is one 
quinquereme.xml not named quinquereme, Pentērēs, and why are the ships not uniformly available to the hellenistic factions?

7. The ptolemaic royald guard forces are now called Hippeus tou Agēmatos and Phalangites tou Agēmatos, 'Cavalryman of the Guard' and 'Phalangite of the Guard'

8. Are you sure "Thōrakitēs Rhomaikos, Romanized Heavy Swordsman" is really what you want? Sounds like something is wrong here, but could be right..

9. Elephas is correct for war elephant. Alternative which I like is Thērion θηρίον, 'wild beast' used so often in battle descriptions by Arrian and the great historians.

10. Phalangitēs tōn Argyraspidōn, 'Phalangite of the Silver-Shields', replaced previous form.

11. Is there a reason for Emporos Perioikos for the Spartans, when all others just have Emporios?

12. Ekdromos Skiritēs -  do we have a source for this one?

13. That 'Melanochitones' - is there some source for that name somewhere?? Except the 0 A.D. forum?

 

**https://trac.wildfiregames.com/browser/ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units

Units Listing Alphabetical

***Legend: Template, Specific Name, Generic Name


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Athen

Spoiler

athen_black_cloak.xml, Rhomphaiophoros Thraix, Thracian Black Cloak
athen_catafalque.xml, Harmamaxa Solōnos, Catafalque of Solōn
athen_cavalry_javelinist_a.xml, Prodromos, Cavalry Skirmisher  **(Advanced)
athen_cavalry_javelinist_b.xml, Prodromos, Cavalry Skirmisher  **(Basic)
athen_cavalry_javelinist_e.xml, Prodromos, Cavalry Skirmisher  **(Elite)
athen_cavalry_swordsman_a.xml, Hippeus, Greek Cavalry  **(Advanced)
athen_cavalry_swordsman_b.xml, Hippeus, Greek Cavalry   **(Basic)
athen_cavalry_swordsman_e.xml, Hippeus, Greek Cavalry **(Elite)
athen_champion_infantry.xml, Epilektos, City Guard
athen_champion_marine.xml Epibatēs Athēnaios, Athenian Marine
athen_champion_ranged.xml, Toxotēs Skythēs, Scythian Archer
athen_champion_ranged_gastraphetes.xml, Gastraphetophoros, Greek Gastraphetes
athen_hero_iphicrates.xml, Iphikratēs, Iphicrates
athen_hero_pericles.xml, Periklēs, Pericles
athen_hero_themistocles.xml, Themistoklēs, Themistocles
athen_hero_xenophon.xml, Xenophōn, Xenophon
athen_infantry_javelinist_a.xml, Peltastēs Thraix, Thracian Peltast  **(Advanced)
athen_infantry_javelinist_b.xml, Peltastēs Thraix, Thracian Peltast  **(Basic)
athen_infantry_javelinist_e.xml, Peltastēs Thraix, Thracian Peltast  **(Elite)
athen_infantry_marine_archer_a.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Advanced)
athen_infantry_marine_archer_b.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Basic)
athen_infantry_marine_archer_e.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Elite)
athen_infantry_slinger_a.xml, Psilos Athēnaios, Athenian Slinger Militia  **(Advanced)
athen_infantry_slinger_b.xml, Psilos Athēnaios, Athenian Slinger Militia  **(Basic)
athen_infantry_slinger_e.xml, Psilos Athēnaios, Athenian Slinger Militia  **(Elite)
athen_infantry_spearman_a.xml, Hoplitēs Athēnaios, Athenian Hoplite  **(Advanced)
athen_infantry_spearman_b.xml, Hoplitēs Athēnaios, Athenian Hoplite  **(Basic)
athen_infantry_spearman_e.xml, Hoplitēs Athēnaios, Athenian Hoplite  **(Elite)
athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult 
athen_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult 
athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter
athen_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter 
athen_ship_bireme.xml, Pentēkontoros, Penteconter
athen_ship_fishing.xml, Ploion Halieutikon, Fishing Boat
athen_ship_merchant.xml, Naus Emporia, Merchantman
athen_ship_trireme.xml, Triērēs Athēnaia, Athenian Trireme
athen_support_female_citizen.xml, Gynē Athēnaia, Athenian Woman 
athen_support_female_citizen_house.xml, Gynē Athēnaia, Athenian Woman 
athen_support_healer_a.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Advanced)
athen_support_healer_b.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Basic)
athen_support_healer_e.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Elite)
athen_support_slave.xml, Doulos, Slave 
athen_support_trader.xml, Emporos, Trader 
athen_thureophoros.xml, Thyreophoros, Heavy Skirmisher

Macedonians

Spoiler

mace_catafalque.xml, Harmamaxa Philippou B', Catafalque of Philipp II
mace_cavalry_javelinist_a.xml, Hippakontistēs Odrysēs, Odrysian Skirmish Cavalry  **(Advanced)
mace_cavalry_javelinist_b.xml, Hippakontistēs Odrysēs, Odrysian Skirmish Cavalry  **(Basic)
mace_cavalry_javelinist_e.xml, Hippakontistēs Odrysēs, Odrysian Skirmish Cavalry
mace_cavalry_spearman_a.xml, Xystophoros Thessalos, Thessalian Lancer  **(Advanced)
mace_cavalry_spearman_b.xml, Xystophoros Thessalos, Thessalian Lancer  **(Basic)
mace_cavalry_spearman_e.xml, Xystophoros Thessalos, Thessalian Lancer
mace_champion_cavalry.xml, Hetairos, Companion Cavalry
mace_champion_cavalry_barracks.xml, Hetairos, Companion Cavalry
mace_champion_infantry_a.xml, Hypaspistēs, Macedonian Shield Bearer  **(Advanced)
mace_champion_infantry_a_barracks.xml, Hypaspistēs, Macedonian Shield Bearer**(Advanced)
mace_champion_infantry_e.xml, Hypaspistēs Argyraspidi, Macedonian Shield Bearer  **(Elite)
mace_champion_infantry_e_barracks.xml, Hypaspistēs Argyraspidi, Macedonian Shield Bearer  **(Elite)
mace_hero_alexander.xml, Alexandros G', Alexander The Great
mace_hero_craterus.xml, Krateros, Crateros
mace_hero_demetrius.xml, Dēmētrios Α' Poliorkētēs, Demetrius I The Besieger
mace_hero_philip.xml, Philippos B', Philip II of Macedon
mace_hero_philip_pike.xml, Philippos B', Philip II of Macedon
mace_hero_pyrrhus.xml, Pyrrhos Α', Pyrrhus of Epirus
mace_infantry_archer_a.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Advanced)
mace_infantry_archer_b.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Basic)
mace_infantry_archer_e.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Elite)
mace_infantry_javelinist_a.xml, Peltastēs Agrios, Agrianian Peltast  **(Advanced)
mace_infantry_javelinist_b.xml, Peltastēs Agrios, Agrianian Peltast  **(Basic)
mace_infantry_javelinist_e.xml, Peltastēs Agrios, Agrianian Peltast  **(Elite)
mace_infantry_pikeman_a.xml, Pezhetairos, Foot Companion  **(Advanced)
mace_infantry_pikeman_b.xml, Pezhetairos, Foot Companion  **(Basic)
mace_infantry_pikeman_e.xml, Pezhetairos, Foot Companion  **(Elite)
mace_infantry_slinger_a.xml, Sphendonētēs Rhodios, Rhodian Slinger  **(Advanced)
mace_infantry_slinger_b.xml, Sphendonētēs Rhodios, Rhodian Slinger  **(Basic)
mace_infantry_slinger_e.xml, Sphendonētēs Rhodios, Rhodian Slinger  **(Elite)
mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
mace_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter
mace_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter
mace_mechanical_siege_ram.xml, Krios, Battering Ram
mace_mechanical_siege_tower.xml, Helepolis, Siege Tower
mace_ship_bireme.xml, Hemiolos, Light Warship
mace_ship_fishing.xml, Ploion Halieutikon, Fishing Boat
athen_ship_merchant.xml, Naus Emporia, Merchantman
mace_ship_trireme.xml, Triērēs, Trireme
mace_support_female_citizen.xml, Gynē Makedonikē, Macedonian Woman
mace_support_female_citizen_house.xml, Gynē Makedonikē, Macedonian Woman
mace_support_healer_a.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Advanced)
mace_support_healer_b.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Basic)
mace_support_healer_e.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Elite)
mace_support_trader.xml, Emporos, Trader
mace_thorakites.xml, Thōrakitēs, Armored Swordsman
mace_thureophoros.xml, Thyreophoros, Heavy Skirmisher

Ptolemies

Spoiler

ptol_catafalque.xml, Harmamaxa Ptolemaiou G', Catafalque of Ptolemaios III Euergetes (Benefactor)
ptol_cavalry_archer_a.xml, Hippotoxotēs Nabataios, Nabataean Camel Archer  **(Advanced)
ptol_cavalry_archer_b.xml, Hippotoxotēs Nabataios, Nabataean Camel Archer  **(Basic)
ptol_cavalry_archer_e.xml, Hippotoxotēs Nabataios, Nabataean Camel Archer  **(Elite)
ptol_cavalry_javelinist_merc_a.xml, Hippeus Tarantinos, Tarantine Settler Cavalry  **(Advanced)
ptol_cavalry_javelinist_merc_b.xml, Hippeus Tarantinos, Tarantine Settler Cavalry  **(Basic)
ptol_cavalry_javelinist_merc_e.xml, Hippeus Tarantinos, Tarantine Settler Cavalry  **(Elite)
ptol_cavalry_spearman_merc_a.xml, Hippeus Makedonikos, Macedonian Settler Cavalry  **(Advanced)
ptol_cavalry_spearman_merc_b.xml, Hippeus Makedonikos, Macedonian Settler Cavalry  **(Basic)
ptol_cavalry_spearman_merc_e.xml, Hippeus Makedonikos, Macedonian Settler Cavalry  **(Elite)
ptol_champion_cavalry.xml, Hippeus tou Agēmatos, Royal Guard Cavalry
ptol_champion_elephant.xml, Elephas, Towered War Elephant
ptol_champion_infantry_pikeman.xml, Phalangites tou Agēmatos, Royal Guard Infantry
ptol_champion_juggernaut.xml, Tessarakonterēs, Juggernaut
ptol_hero_cleopatra.xml, Kleopatra H' Philopatōr, Cleopatra VII
ptol_hero_ptolemy_I.xml, Ptolemaios A' Sōter, Ptolemy I "Savior"
ptol_hero_ptolemy_IV.xml, Ptolemaios D' Philopatōr, Ptolemy IV "Father Loving"
ptol_infantry_archer_a.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_archer_b.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_archer_e.xml, Toxotēs Krēs, Cretan Mercenary Archer  **(Elite)
ptol_infantry_archer_nubian.xml, Toxotēs Aithiops, Nubian Mercenary Archer
ptol_infantry_javelinist_a.xml, Thyreophoros Akrobolistēs, Mercenary Thyreos Skirmisher  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_javelinist_b.xml, Thyreophoros Akrobolistēs, Mercenary Thyreos Skirmisher  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_javelinist_e.xml, Thyreophoros Akrobolistēs, Mercenary Thyreos Skirmisher  **(Elite)
ptol_infantry_pikeman_a.xml, Phalangomachimos, Egyptian Pikeman  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_pikeman_b.xml, Phalangomachimos, Egyptian Pikeman  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_pikeman_e.xml, Phalangomachimos, Egyptian Pikeman  **(Elite)
ptol_infantry_slinger_a.xml, Hebraikos Sphendonētēs, Judean Slinger  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_slinger_b.xml, Hebraikos Sphendonētēs, Judean Slinger  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_slinger_e.xml, Hebraikos Sphendonētēs, Judean Slinger  **(Elite)r
ptol_infantry_spearman_merc_a.xml, Thyreophoros Misthophoros, Mercenary Thureos Spearman  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_spearman_merc_b.xml, Thyreophoros Misthophoros, Mercenary Thureos Spearman  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_spearman_merc_e.xml, Thyreophoros Misthophoros, Mercenary Thureos Spearman  **(Elite)
ptol_infantry_swordsman_merc_a.xml, Mistophoros Gallikos, Gallic Mercenary Swordsman  **(Advanced)
ptol_infantry_swordsman_merc_b.xml, Mistophoros Gallikos, Gallic Mercenary Swordsman  **(Basic)
ptol_infantry_swordsman_merc_e.xml, Mistophoros Gallikos, Gallic Mercenary Swordsman  **(Elite)
ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
ptol_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_packed.xml, Polybolos, Bolt Shooter
ptol_mechanical_siege_polybolos_unpacked.xml, Polybolos, Bolt Shooter
ptol_mechanical_siege_tower.xml, Helepolis, Siege Tower
ptol_ship_bireme.xml, Diērēs, Bireme
ptol_ship_fishing.xml, Ploion Halieutikon, Fishing Boat
ptol_ship_merchant.xml, Naus Emporia, Merchantman
ptol_ship_quinquereme.xml, Oktērēs, Heavy Warship
ptol_ship_trireme.xml, Pentērēs, Medium Warship
ptol_support_female_citizen.xml, Gynē Aigyptia, Egyptian Woman
ptol_support_female_citizen_house.xml, Gynē Aigyptia, Egyptian Woman
ptol_support_healer_a.xml, Hiereus Aigyptios, Egyptian Priest  **(Advanced)
ptol_support_healer_b.xml, Hiereus Aigyptios, Egyptian Priest  **(Basic)
ptol_support_healer_e.xml, Hiereus Aigyptios, Egyptian Priest  **(Elite)
ptol_support_trader.xml, Emporos, Trader

Seleucids

Spoiler

sele_catafalque.xml, Harmamaxa Antiochou A', Catafalque of Antiochos I Sōter (Savior)
sele_cavalry_archer_a.xml, Hippotoxotēs Daēs, Dahae Horse Archer  **(Advanced)
sele_cavalry_archer_b.xml, Hippotoxotēs Daēs, Dahae Horse Archer  **(Basic)
sele_cavalry_archer_e.xml, Hippotoxotēs Daēs, Dahae Horse Archer  **(Elite)
sele_cavalry_javelinist_a.xml, Hippakontistēs Politēs, Militia Cavalry  **(Advanced)
sele_cavalry_javelinist_b.xml, Hippakontistēs Politēs, Militia Cavalry  **(Basic)
sele_cavalry_javelinist_e.xml, Hippakontistēs Politēs, Militia Cavalry  **(Elite)
sele_cavalry_spearman_merc_a.xml, Hetairos, Companion Cavalry  **(Advanced)
sele_cavalry_spearman_merc_b.xml, Hetairos, Companion Cavalry  **(Basic)
sele_cavalry_spearman_merc_e.xml, Hetairos, Companion Cavalry  **(Elite)
sele_champion_cavalry.xml, Kataphraktos, Seleucid Cataphract
sele_champion_chariot.xml, Drepanēphoros, Scythed Chariot
sele_champion_elephant.xml, Elephas, Armored War Elephant
sele_champion_infantry_pikeman.xml, Phalangitēs tōn Argyraspidōn, Silver Shield Pikeman
sele_champion_infantry_swordsman.xml, Thōrakitēs Rhomaikos, Romanized Heavy Swordsman
sele_hero_antiochus_great.xml, Antiochos G' Megas, Antiochus III "The Great"
sele_hero_antiochus_righteous.xml, Antiochos D' Epiphanēs, Antiochus IV "The Righteous"
sele_hero_seleucus_victor.xml, Seleukos A' Nikatōr, Seleucus I "The Victor"
sele_infantry_archer_merc_a.xml, Toxotēs Syros, Syrian Archer  **(Advanced)
sele_infantry_archer_merc_b.xml, Toxotēs Syros, Syrian Archer  **(Basic)
sele_infantry_archer_merc_e.xml, Toxotēs Syros, Syrian Archer  **(Elite)
sele_infantry_javelinist_a.xml, Pezakontistēs Araps, Arab Javelineer  **(Advanced)
sele_infantry_javelinist_b.xml, Pezakontistēs Araps, Arab Javelineer  **(Basic)
sele_infantry_javelinist_e.xml, Pezakontistēs Araps, Arab Javelineer  **(Elite)
sele_infantry_pikeman_a.xml, Chalkaspides, Bronze Shield Pikeman  **(Advanced)
sele_infantry_pikeman_b.xml, Chalkaspides, Bronze Shield Pikeman  **(Basic)
sele_infantry_pikeman_e.xml, Chalkaspides, Bronze Shield Pikeman  **(Elite)
sele_infantry_spearman_a.xml, Thyreophoros Politēs, Militia Thureos Spearman  **(Advanced)
sele_infantry_spearman_b.xml, Thyreophoros Politēs, Militia Thureos Spearman  **(Basic)
sele_infantry_spearman_e.xml, Thyreophoros Politēs, Militia Thureos Spearman  **(Elite)
sele_infantry_swordsman_merc_a.xml, Rhompaiophoros Thraix, Thracian Mercenary Swordsman  **(Advanced)
sele_infantry_swordsman_merc_b.xml, Rhompaiophoros Thraix, Thracian Mercenary Swordsman  **(Basic)
sele_infantry_swordsman_merc_e.xml, Rhompaiophoros Thraix, Thracian Mercenary Swordsman  **(Elite)
sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_packed.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
sele_mechanical_siege_lithobolos_unpacked.xml, Lithobolos, Siege Catapult
sele_mechanical_siege_tower.xml, Helepolis, Siege Tower
sele_ship_bireme.xml, Diērēs, Bireme
sele_ship_fishing.xml, Ploion Halieutikon, Fishing Boat
sele_ship_merchant.xml, Naus Emporia, Merchantman
sele_ship_quinquereme.xml, Pentērēs, Heavy Warship
sele_ship_trireme.xml, Triērēs, Seleucid Trireme
sele_support_female_citizen.xml, Gynē Syrikē, Syrian Woman
sele_support_female_citizen_house.xml, Gynē Syrikē, Syrian Woman
sele_support_healer_a.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Advanced)
sele_support_healer_b.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Basic)
sele_support_healer_e.xml, Hiereus, Healer  **(Elite)
sele_support_trader.xml, Emporos, Trader

Spartans

Spoiler

spart_black_cloak.xml, Rhompaiophoros, Thracian Black Cloak
spart_catafalque.xml, Harmamaxa Lykourgou, Catafalque of Lykourgos
spart_cavalry_javelinist_a.xml, Prodromos Perioikos, Perioikoi Cavalryman  **(Advanced)
spart_cavalry_javelinist_b.xml, Prodromos Perioikos, Perioikoi Cavalryman  **(Basic)
spart_cavalry_javelinist_e.xml, Prodromos Perioikos, Perioikoi Cavalryman  **(Elite)
spart_cavalry_spearman_a.xml, Hippeus Symmachikos, Greek Allied Cavalry  **(Advanced)
spart_cavalry_spearman_b.xml, Hippeus Symmachikos, Greek Allied Cavalry  **(Basic)
spart_cavalry_spearman_e.xml, Hippeus Symmachikos, Greek Allied Cavalry  **(Elite)
spart_champion_infantry_pike.xml, Phalangitēs Spartiatēs, Spartan Pikeman
spart_champion_infantry_spear.xml, Hoplitēs Spartiatēs, Spartan Hoplite
spart_champion_infantry_sword.xml, Ekdromos Skiritēs, Skiritai Commando
spart_hero_agis.xml, Agis G', Agis III
spart_hero_brasidas.xml, Brasidas, Brasidas
spart_hero_leonidas.xml, Leōnidas Α', Leonidas I
spart_hero_leonidas_300.xml, Leōnidas Α', Leonidas I
spart_infantry_javelinist_a.xml, Akontistēs Heilōs, Helot Skirmisher  **(Advanced)
spart_infantry_javelinist_b.xml, Akontistēs Heilōs, Helot Skirmisher  **(Basic)
spart_infantry_javelinist_e.xml, Akontistēs Heilōs, Helot Skirmisher  **(Elite)
spart_infantry_spearman_a.xml, Hoplitēs Perioikos, Perioikoi Hoplite  **(Advanced)
spart_infantry_spearman_b.xml, Hoplitēs Perioikos, Perioikoi Hoplite  **(Basic)
spart_infantry_spearman_e.xml, Hoplitēs Perioikos, Perioikoi Hoplite  **(Elite)
spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_packed.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter
spart_mechanical_siege_oxybeles_unpacked.xml, Oxybelēs, Bolt Shooter
spart_mechanical_siege_ram.xml, Krios, Battering Ram
spart_ship_bireme.xml, Pentēkontoros, Light Warship
spart_ship_fishing.xml, Ploion Halieutikon, Fishing Boat
spart_ship_merchant.xml, Naus Emporia, Merchantman
spart_ship_trireme.xml, Triērēs, Trireme
spart_support_female_citizen.xml, Spartiatis, Spartan Woman
spart_support_female_citizen_house.xml, Spartiatis, Spartan Woman
spart_support_healer_a.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Advanced)
spart_support_healer_b.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Basic)
spart_support_healer_e.xml, Iatros, Healer  **(Elite)
spart_support_trader.xml, Emporos Perioikos, Trader
spart_thorakites.xml, Thōrakitēs, Armored Swordsman
spart_thureophoros.xml, Thyreophoros, Heavy Skirmisher

theb_mechanical_siege_fireraiser.xml, Pyrobolos, Fire Raiser
thebes_sacred_band_hoplitai.xml, Hoplitēs Hierou Lochou Thēbaiou, Theban Sacred Band Hoplite
thespian_melanochitones.xml, Melanochitones, Thespian Black Cloak
viking_longship.xml, Longship, Light Warship

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Little offtopic, but related: I still think that would be cool to have that patch to hide optionally the translated specific name.

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2 minutes ago, av93 said:

Little offtopic, but related: I still think that would be cool to have that patch to hide optionally the translated specific name.

Yeah, like a button switch in the settings? We are probably many who would like that but seems like it's a lot of work, for a little bonus.

Ask the programmer dudes about that :gandalf_w:

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1 hour ago, Anaxandridas ho Skandiates said:

Yeah, like a button switch in the settings? We are probably many who would like that but seems like it's a lot of work, for a little bonus.

Ask the programmer dudes about that :gandalf_w:

Actually like wow I think he doesn't want to see the specific name at all :P 

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3 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I don't think it would be that much work. All that needs to be done is make 1 tag in the templates togglable viewing in the GUI code.

I think specific name is like three of four files + the option file. That's a simple patch but it's not that much work yes.

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On 6/27/2019 at 5:55 AM, Anaxandridas ho Skandiates said:

1. I chose ἁρμάμαξα Harmamaxa for catafalque, since that is what Diodoros 18 chapter 27 uses for Alexander's catafalque. It means "covered chariot" like the model shows. (Before it was named for Athens "Solon"?? Macedonia: "Philip V"? "Ptolemy III Euergetes (Benefactor)"?? "Antiochus I Soter (Savior)"?? "Lycurgus"?? - do you want me to rename them Harmamaxa Solōnos/Philippou B'/Ptolemaiou G'/Antiochou A'/Lykourgou?)

 

The Catafalques are supposed to house the remains of the men mentioned in their name. So yeah, "Catafalque of Solon" would be the best generic name and then the specific name translation from that.

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8 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

The Catafalques are supposed to house the remains of the men mentioned in their name. So yeah, "Catafalque of Solon" would be the best generic name and then the specific name translation from that.

Fixed, updated.

Anything else?

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On 6/27/2019 at 11:55 AM, Anaxandridas ho Skandiates said:

2. Rhomphaiaphoros I corrected to Rhompaiophoros ῥομφαίοφόρος ?

On 6/27/2019 at 11:55 AM, Anaxandridas ho Skandiates said:

13. That 'Melanochitones' - is there some source for that name somewhere?? Except the 0 A.D. forum?

Well, I'm guessing they're based on Plut. Aem. 18.3 (quoting potentially problematic Perseus again):

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πρῶτοι δ᾽ οἱ Θρᾷκες ἐχώρουν, ὧν μάλιστά φησιν ἐκπλαγῆναι τὴν ὄψιν, ἄνδρες ὑψηλοὶ τὰ σώματα, λευκῷ καὶ περιλάμποντι θυρεῶν καὶ περικνημίδων ὁπλισμῷ μέλανας ὑπενδεδυμένοι χιτῶνας, ὀρθὰς δὲ ῥομφαίας βαρυσιδήρους ἀπὸ τῶν δεξιῶν ὤμων ἐπισείοντες, παρὰ δὲ τοὺς Θρᾷκας οἱ μισθοφόροι παρενέβαλλον, ὧν σκευαί τε παντοδαπαὶ, καὶ μεμιγμένοι Παίονες ἦσαν ἐπὶ δὲ τούτοις ἄγημα τρίτον οἱ λογάδες, αὐτῶν Μακεδόνων ἀρετῇ καὶ ἡλικίᾳ τὸ καθαρώτατον, ἀστράπτοντες ἐπιχρύσοις ὅπλοις καὶ νεουργοῖς φοινικίσιν.

First the Thracians advanced, whose appearance, Nasica says, was most terrible,—men of lofty stature, clad in tunics which showed black beneath the white and gleaming armour of their shields and greaves, and tossing high on their right shoulders battle-axes [sic] with heavy iron heads. Next to the Thracians, the mercenaries advanced to the attack; their equipment was of every variety, and Paeonians were mingled with them. Next to these came a third division, picked men, the flower of the Macedonians themselves for youthful strength and valour, gleaming with gilded armour and fresh scarlet coats.

That doesn't mean we should stick with that specific name, though.

(I'll respond to your other points another time.)

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ῥομφαίοφόρος is correct, that is what happens when you add the suffix (guys really have to know that stuff if they want to create new unattested words, which is why I generally argue against it, but let us leave Melanochitones as it is not an official faction unit).

 

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22 hours ago, Anaxandridas ho Skandiates said:

ῥομφαίοφόρος is correct, that is what happens when you add the suffix (guys really have to know that stuff if they want to create new unattested words, which is why I generally argue against it, but let us leave Melanochitones as it is not an official faction unit).

The champion black cloaks are trainable by Athens, Macedon, and Sparta, who share one and the same file. The Seleucids have mercenary rhomphaiophoroi of their own; nonetheless, their actors are rather similar:black_cloaks.thumb.png.1aae2645c4cd954452d2fff58aa69845.png

(from left to right: basic, advanced, elite (Seleucids) and champion (Athens/Macedon/Sparta).)

Although they have different files, in principle they're based on the same unit type, therefore they ought to use the same name—whether that is “black cloak”, “rhomphaiophoros”, “Thracian swordman”, or something else.

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