Sundiata Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) The Kingdom of Kush: A kingdom of silver horse trappings Boston Museum of Fine Arts collection In Meroitic Kush, horses were important, and nothing attests to that more than the silver horse-equipment, used by it's rulers. Ornately decorated silver and bronze plaques, carved with images of lions, rulers, gods and other symbols like the Ankh, were sewn to leather bands, running across the length of the horse, sometimes hinted at in the various graffito of horse-men. They would have looked magnificent... Spoiler Bronze, interlocking plaques, and buckle, part of elaborate horse trappings. The rest is all silver: Bounding lions, remarkably similar to an example I shared earlier A repost of the earlier set I shared, to show that they are in fact belonging to unique sets And more silver plaques: "Bronze bells with representations of bound enemies accompanied the gilded silver plaques on the horse trappings" Magnificent silver Lion heads: I know this might be confusing.. How in the world were these silver plaques part of horse trappings? Luckily for us, we have completely intact, less ornate, post Meroitic examples to compare it with. From the graves of Ballana, lower Nubia, Nobatian royals continued many of the traditions started by their Meroitic predecessors, including the use of elaborate silver horse trapping. This will be one of the references for Meroitic cavalry: (repost) The Horses of Ballana, from the Nubian museum in Aswan: And the source: http://www.mfa.org/search?search_api_views_fulltext=MEROITIC+silver+horse Edited August 14, 2017 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Gonna level with y'all; market's my least favorite building to model. What a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 @LordGood Too much prop heh ? You could use the one I made for the iberians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 so many props Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Going through the same crisis making textures :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 so many rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 uuugh take that, market 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Pretty cool ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 @LordGood, as always, wow! "my least favorite building to model" ...doesn't seem to have affected the quality of the model... I'm shocked at the amount of things that got done the past 48 hours... Really impressive guys!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 lol just a word of warning, temple of amun is going to be cut at the 3rd and 1st pylon gate because its getting waay too long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 and it still rivals the temple of edfu lol oh well god see how much faster that was? dang markets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Ooooh..... Nice! Yeah, definitely, only a large first pylon entrance, leading to an inner courtyard, and a second pylon entrance, leading to holy of holies, like almost all of the Amun temples. The one at Napata with 4 pylon gates is a unique variation, because it was the main temple to Amun. Only need to use the front part as reference, the back part of it are just some unnecessary additions... Here's the one from Kawa: Spoiler In response to your (fantastic) model, I'd suggest that the elevated roof on that back part is replaced by a (narrow) opening in the roof, reaching almost halfway the back. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Anything dissuading the use of Egyptian clerestory windows? I've been wanting to use them for the longest time, I find them architecturally intriguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) "and it still rivals the temple of edfu lol" Actually: temple of Amun at Napata became over 150 meters long. Temple of Edfu was 137 meters long... It did actually rival Edfu Clerestory windows eh? I'm not opposed... Edited August 15, 2017 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 It may be my ego speaking but i really like how these guys are turning out. The Egyptians everyone wanted but we couldn't deliver lol. I would like to push these guys for vanilla, they're too close and the broader 0 A.D. audience would love this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 We can have semioficial iced our mods a faction starts as mod and becomes a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Oh no no, fully official mod. I do believe this will be the first 3D reconstruction of this particular part of Musawwarat es Sufra. I guess the pressure is on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Some need ask... to ITMS, Feneur ,Enrique or Elexis ? @niektb you are team too. Edited August 15, 2017 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, LordGood said: The Egyptians everyone wanted but we couldn't deliver lol. I would like to push these guys for vanilla, they're too close and the broader 0 A.D. audience would love this. You're definitely not the only one thinking this... They're very relevant, add a nice cultural balance, and look absolutely gorgeous. Good luck with Musawwarat, by the way! Edited August 15, 2017 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) What is the wonder to be? The Amun temple is already the size of a wonder. That's what I was worried about. May I request a Cult Statue for DE? Edited August 15, 2017 by wowgetoffyourcellphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 5 hours ago, LordGood said: Oh no no, fully official mod. The same thing was suggested for the Han Chinese, yet never made it through (not to mention the amount of civ proposals that were denied because 'no new factions will be added for 0 A.D. part 1'...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, niektb said: not to mention the amount of civ proposals that were denied because 'no new factions will be added for 0 A.D. part 1' This is for the mythical "balance" that must be attained... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 9 hours ago, LordGood said: It may be my ego speaking but i really like how these guys are turning out. The Egyptians everyone wanted but we couldn't deliver lol. I would like to push these guys for vanilla, they're too close and the broader 0 A.D. audience would love this. Yes, i also really like where they are going to, and agree they would be a nice addition to vanilla. Maybe you could start a discussion about it within the team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundiata Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, niektb said: The same thing was suggested for the Han Chinese, yet never made it through (not to mention the amount of civ proposals that were denied because 'no new factions will be added for 0 A.D. part 1'...) It's regrettable the Chinese didn't make it through, but there were arguable reasons, in terms of historical connectivity to the existing civs. Adding minicivs or full blown civs like Xiognu & Scythians connects them. The same line of argument doesn't apply to the Kushites. They had at least three wars, against three civs already in the game! They fought Persians, Ptolemies and Romans. In addition, Greek and Galatian mercenaries fought against Kushites in the deserts of Sudan, and Kushite mercenaries fought as far as the Greek mainland during the Persian invasion of Greece. They also fought wars against the Neo-Assyrian Empire and Saite Dynasty Egypt. Alexander the Great even received an embassy from Kush. None of the other civilisations that were proposed are comparable to Kushites (architecture, units, political coherence, relevance, level of sophistication, gameplay...). The others were all lacking in one department or another. Kush is simply the last remaining powerhouse from classical antiquity that hasn't been added... "The Forgotten Kingdom". "no new factions will be added for 0 A.D. part 1" (sounds oddly dogmatic and irrational when the faction in question will be finished in a matter months) Let me quote the late Ken Wood when he said: "The fate of 0 A.D. is in the hands, of those who have vision and perseverance" I believe adding the Kushites demonstrates both vision and perseverance. Edited August 15, 2017 by Sundiata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 @Sundiata: that wasn't the argumentation for rejecting it though, the explanation was something among the lines of 'having production quality mods is good for showing the modding capabilities of 0 A.D.'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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