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  1. Hi all,

    I dunno if 0ad uses Tessellation or not . I just read this news http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Tessellation-For-Pre-Broadwell as well as http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Tessellation-Gen7 and from it, it seems that Tessellation support is coming soon. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessellation_(computer_graphics) to know why it matters. While I do not know if 0ad uses Tessellation or not thought it might benefit from at least knowing what's happening out there, in case there is idea to support this technology.

  2. Hi all,

    Newbie here. I just played 0.19 64-bit. It took me quite some time to figure out where the tutorials are.

    http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/2303 is obviously needed and hopefully it will come in alpha 20. What I don't know is what to play after that. There doesn't seem to be any scenarios which build on the first one.

    Also is there an option to see the tutorial messages for a longer time or to see what announcements or messages I missed in the game ?

    That actually should be part of the tutorial itself so newbies like me where to look.

    Also in the introductory tutorial, there are three resources, food which is either berries or farming, wood and stone. Metal is nowhere to be found nor is any explanation of a fifth resource which has an icon but no name, some sort of reputation or something (don't really know) and there is no way to know how that is added/earned.

    Even how territories are expanded are not known.

  3. Hi all,

    As the fund-raiser is happening, perhaps it would be a good idea to also showcase the game via gog.com/indie . You might be able to generate some cash or if nothing else make it easier for people who may have not heard the game or played it, be able to see and play it. I don't see any downside to it, can the people who are leading 0ad take some initiative and see if something can pan out.

    Good luck on the fund-raiser.

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  4. Hi all,

    Just started with alpha 11 (I know alpha 12 is the latest one) . Tried to find an easy game, didn't one in which the AI will be weak and you have all the time in the world to win.

    There is serious lag on alpha 11 on my system. I have no idea if the game does honor the settings in ~/.config/0ad or not. These are my settings there.


    ; Global Configuration Settings
    ;
    ; **************************************************************
    ; * DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE if you want personal customisations: *
    ; * create a text file called "local.cfg" instead, and copy *
    ; * the lines from this file that you want to change. *
    ; * *
    ; * On Linux / OS X, create: *
    ; * ~/.config/0ad/config/local.cfg *
    ; * *
    ; * On Windows, create: *
    ; * %appdata%/0ad/config/local.cfg *
    ; * *
    ; **************************************************************
    ; Enable/disable windowed mode by default. (Use Alt+Enter to toggle in the game.)
    windowed = true
    ; Pause the game on window focus loss (Only applicable to single player mode)
    pauseonfocusloss = true
    ; Force a particular resolution. (If these are 0, the default is
    ; to keep the current desktop resolution in fullscreen mode or to
    ; use 1024x768 in windowed mode.)
    xres = 1024
    yres = 768
    ; Force a non-standard bit depth (if 0 then use the current desktop bit depth)
    bpp = 0
    ; System settings:
    fancywater = false
    shadows = false
    shadowpcf = false
    vsync = false
    nos3tc = false
    noautomipmap = false
    novbo = false
    noframebufferobject = false
    ; Disable hardware cursors
    nohwcursor = false
    ; Linux only: Set the driconf force_s3tc_enable option at startup,
    ; for compressed texture support
    force_s3tc_enable = true
    ; Specify the render path. This can be one of:
    ; default Automatically select one of the below, depending on system capabilities
    ; fixed Only use OpenGL fixed function pipeline
    ; shader Use vertex/fragment shaders for transform and lighting where possible
    ; Using 'fixed' instead of 'default' may work around some graphics-related problems,
    ; but will reduce performance and features when a modern graphics card is available.
    renderpath = default
    ; Prefer GLSL shaders over ARB shaders (not recommended)
    preferglsl = false
    ; Adjusts how OpenGL calculates mipmap level of detail. 0.0f is the default (blurry) value.
    ; Lower values sharpen/extend, and higher values blur/decrease. Clamped at -3.0 to 3.0.
    ; -1.0 to -1.5 recommended for good results.
    lodbias = 0
    ; Opt-in online user reporting system
    userreport.url = "http://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/upload/v1/"
    ; Colour of the sky (in "r g b" format)
    skycolor = "0 0 0"
    ; GENERAL PREFERENCES:
    sound.mastergain = 0.5
    ; Camera control settings
    view.scroll.speed = 120.0
    view.rotate.x.speed = 1.2
    view.rotate.x.min = 28.0
    view.rotate.x.max = 60.0
    view.rotate.x.default = 35.0
    view.rotate.y.speed = 2.0
    view.rotate.y.speed.wheel = 0.45
    view.rotate.y.default = 0.0
    view.drag.speed = 0.5
    view.zoom.speed = 256.0
    view.zoom.speed.wheel = 32.0
    view.zoom.min = 50.0
    view.zoom.max = 200.0
    view.zoom.default = 100.0
    view.pos.smoothness = 0.1
    view.zoom.smoothness = 0.4
    view.rotate.x.smoothness = 0.5
    view.rotate.y.smoothness = 0.3
    view.near = 2.0 ; Near plane distance
    view.far = 4096.0 ; Far plane distance
    view.fov = 45.0 ; Field of view (degrees), lower is narrow, higher is wide
    ; HOTKEY MAPPINGS:
    ; Each one of the specified keys will trigger the action on the left
    ; for multiple-key combinations, separate keys with '+' and enclose the entire thing
    ; in doublequotes.
    ; See keys.txt for the list of key names.
    ; > SYSTEM SETTINGS
    hotkey.exit = "Alt+F4", "Ctrl+Break" ; Exit to desktop
    hotkey.leave = Escape ; End current game or Exit
    hotkey.pause = Pause ; Pause/unpause game
    hotkey.screenshot = F2 ; Take PNG screenshot
    hotkey.bigscreenshot = "Shift+F2" ; Take large BMP screenshot
    hotkey.togglefullscreen = "Alt+Return" ; Toggle fullscreen/windowed mode
    hotkey.screenshot.watermark = "K" ; Toggle product/company watermark for official screenshots
    hotkey.wireframe = "Alt+W" ; Toggle wireframe mode
    ; > CAMERA SETTINGS
    hotkey.camera.reset = "H" ; Reset camera rotation to default.
    hotkey.camera.follow = "F" ; Follow the first unit in the selection
    hotkey.camera.zoom.in = Plus, Equals, NumPlus ; Zoom camera in (continuous control)
    hotkey.camera.zoom.out = Minus, NumMinus ; Zoom camera out (continuous control)
    hotkey.camera.zoom.wheel.in = WheelUp ; Zoom camera in (stepped control)
    hotkey.camera.zoom.wheel.out = WheelDown ; Zoom camera out (stepped control)
    hotkey.camera.rotate.up = "Ctrl+UpArrow", "Ctrl+W" ; Rotate camera to look upwards
    hotkey.camera.rotate.down = "Ctrl+DownArrow", "Ctrl+S" ; Rotate camera to look downwards
    hotkey.camera.rotate.cw = "Ctrl+LeftArrow", "Ctrl+A", Q ; Rotate camera clockwise around terrain
    hotkey.camera.rotate.ccw = "Ctrl+RightArrow", "Ctrl+D", E ; Rotate camera anticlockwise around terrain
    hotkey.camera.rotate.wheel.cw = "Shift+WheelUp", MouseX1 ; Rotate camera clockwise around terrain (stepped control)
    hotkey.camera.rotate.wheel.ccw = "Shift+WheelDown", MouseX2 ; Rotate camera anticlockwise around terrain (stepped control)
    hotkey.camera.pan = MouseMiddle, ForwardSlash ; Enable scrolling by moving mouse
    hotkey.camera.left = A, LeftArrow ; Scroll or rotate left
    hotkey.camera.right = D, RightArrow ; Scroll or rotate right
    hotkey.camera.up = W, UpArrow ; Scroll or rotate up/forwards
    hotkey.camera.down = S, DownArrow ; Scroll or rotate down/backwards
    ; > CONSOLE SETTINGS
    hotkey.console.toggle = BackQuote, F9 ; Open/close console
    ; > CLIPBOARD CONTROLS
    hotkey.copy = "Ctrl+C" ; Copy to clipboard
    hotkey.paste = "Ctrl+V" ; Paste from clipboard
    hotkey.cut = "Ctrl+X" ; Cut selected text and copy to the clipboard
    ; > ENTITY SELECTION
    hotkey.selection.add = Shift ; Add units to selection
    hotkey.selection.milonly = Alt ; Add only military units to selection
    hotkey.selection.remove = Ctrl ; Remove units from selection
    hotkey.selection.idleworker = Period ; Select next idle worker
    hotkey.selection.idlewarrior = Comma ; Select next idle warrior
    hotkey.selection.offscreen = Alt ; Include offscreen units in selection
    hotkey.selection.group.select.0 = 0
    hotkey.selection.group.save.0 = "Ctrl+0"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.0 = "Shift+0"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.1 = 1
    hotkey.selection.group.save.1 = "Ctrl+1"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.1 = "Shift+1"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.2 = 2
    hotkey.selection.group.save.2 = "Ctrl+2"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.2 = "Shift+2"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.3 = 3
    hotkey.selection.group.save.3 = "Ctrl+3"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.3 = "Shift+3"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.4 = 4
    hotkey.selection.group.save.4 = "Ctrl+4"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.4 = "Shift+4"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.5 = 5
    hotkey.selection.group.save.5 = "Ctrl+5"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.5 = "Shift+5"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.6 = 6
    hotkey.selection.group.save.6 = "Ctrl+6"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.6 = "Shift+6"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.7 = 7
    hotkey.selection.group.save.7 = "Ctrl+7"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.7 = "Shift+7"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.8 = 8
    hotkey.selection.group.save.8 = "Ctrl+8"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.8 = "Shift+8"
    hotkey.selection.group.select.9 = 9
    hotkey.selection.group.save.9 = "Ctrl+9"
    hotkey.selection.group.add.9 = "Shift+9"
    ; > SESSION CONTROLS
    hotkey.session.kill = Delete ; Destroy selected units
    hotkey.session.garrison = Ctrl ; Modifier to garrison when clicking on building
    hotkey.session.queue = Shift ; Modifier to queue unit orders instead of replacing
    hotkey.session.batchtrain = Shift ; Modifier to train units in batches
    hotkey.session.massbarter = Shift ; Modifier to barter bunch of resources
    hotkey.session.deselectgroup = Ctrl ; Modifier to deselect units when clicking group icon, instead of selecting
    hotkey.session.rotate.cw = RightBracket ; Rotate building placement preview clockwise
    hotkey.session.rotate.ccw = LeftBracket ; Rotate building placement preview anticlockwise
    hotkey.timewarp.fastforward = Space ; If timewarp mode enabled, speed up the game
    hotkey.timewarp.rewind = Backspace ; If timewarp mode enabled, go back to earlier point in the game
    ; > OVERLAY KEYS
    hotkey.fps.toggle = "Alt+F" ; Toggle frame counter
    hotkey.session.devcommands.toggle = "Alt+D" ; Toggle developer commands panel
    hotkey.session.gui.toggle = "Alt+G" ; Toggle visibility of session GUI
    hotkey.menu.toggle = "F10" ; Toggle in-game menu
    hotkey.timeelapsedcounter.toggle = "F12" ; Toggle time elapsed counter
    ; > HOTKEYS ONLY
    hotkey.chat = Return ; Toggle chat window
    ; > GUI TEXTBOX HOTKEYS
    hotkey.text.delete.left = "Ctrl+Backspace" ; Delete word to the left of cursor
    hotkey.text.delete.right = "Ctrl+Del" ; Delete word to the right of cursor
    hotkey.text.move.left = "Ctrl+LeftArrow" ; Move cursor to start of word to the left of cursor
    hotkey.text.move.right = "Ctrl+RightArrow" ; Move cursor to start of word to the right of cursor
    ; > PROFILER
    hotkey.profile.toggle = "F11" ; Enable/disable real-time profiler
    hotkey.profile.save = "Shift+F11" ; Save current profiler data to logs/profile.txt
    hotkey.profile2.enable = "F11" ; Enable HTTP/GPU modes for new profiler
    profiler2.http.autoenable = false ; Enable HTTP server output at startup (default off for security/performance)
    profiler2.gpu.autoenable = false ; Enable GPU timing at startup (default off for performance/compatibility)
    profiler2.gpu.arb.enable = true ; Allow GL_ARB_timer_query timing mode when available
    profiler2.gpu.ext.enable = true ; Allow GL_EXT_timer_query timing mode when available
    profiler2.gpu.intel.enable = true ; Allow GL_INTEL_performance_queries timing mode when available
    hotkey.attackmove = Super
    ; > QUICKSAVE
    hotkey.quicksave = "Shift+F5"
    hotkey.quickload = "Shift+F8"
    ; EXPERIMENTAL: joystick/gamepad settings
    joystick.enable = false
    joystick.deadzone = 8192
    joystick.camera.pan.x = 0
    joystick.camera.pan.y = 1
    joystick.camera.rotate.x = 3
    joystick.camera.rotate.y = 2
    joystick.camera.zoom.in = 5
    joystick.camera.zoom.out = 4

    And this is what happens when I'm attempting to play the game (output via CLI ) :-


    $ 0ad
    Cache: 500 (total: 2003) MiB
    TIMER| InitVfs: 515.89 us
    Sound: AlcInit success, using OpenAL Soft
    TIMER| InitScripting: 6.98533 ms
    TIMER| CONFIG_Init: 141.595 ms
    ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
    TIMER| RunHardwareDetection: 23.643 ms
    TIMER| write_sys_info: 17.6835 ms
    TIMER| InitRenderer: 1.3224 ms
    TIMER| ps_console: 2.06871 ms
    TIMER| ps_lang_hotkeys: 871.041 us
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 890.45 us
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 277.44 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 3.40747 ms
    TIMER| common/init.xml: 1.81486 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 2.73296 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 395.87 us
    TIMER| pregame/sprites.xml: 621.055 us
    TIMER| pregame/styles.xml: 62.5 us
    TIMER| pregame/mainmenu.xml: 8.15188 ms
    TIMER| common/global.xml: 476.895 us
    Using Xcursor to sys_cursor_create 32 x 32 cursor
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 1.58204 ms
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 72.16 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 4.79001 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 3.6359 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 290.075 us
    TIMER| msgbox/msgbox.xml: 1.28046 ms
    TIMER| shutdown TexMan: 14.275 us
    TIMER| shutdown Renderer: 588.395 us
    TIMER| shutdown SDL: 77.8287 ms
    TIMER| shutdown UserReporter: 444.285 us
    TIMER| shutdown ScriptingHost: 2.42246 ms
    TIMER| shutdown ConfigDB: 0.445 us
    TIMER| resource modules: 35.4084 ms
    TIMER TOTALS (9 clients)
    -----------------------------------------------------
    tc_png_decode: 23.313 Mc (8x)
    tc_pool_alloc: 3034 kc (122x)
    tc_dds_transform: 52.919 kc (10x)
    tc_transform: 137.875 kc (4x)
    tc_plain_transform: 44.739 kc (4x)
    tc_ShaderGLSLLink: 0 c (0x)
    tc_ShaderGLSLCompile: 0 c (0x)
    tc_ShaderValidation: 1885.98 kc (1x)
    xml_validation: 1767.95 kc (1x)
    -----------------------------------------------------
    TIMER| shutdown misc: 1.49653 ms
    13:02:07 shirish@deb-home: ~$ cd ~/.config/0ad/
    13:02:39 shirish@deb-home: ~/.config/0ad$ leafpad local.cfg
    13:02:55 shirish@deb-home: ~/.config/0ad$ cd
    13:02:57 shirish@deb-home: ~$ 0ad
    Cache: 500 (total: 2003) MiB
    TIMER| InitVfs: 507.705 us
    Sound: AlcInit success, using OpenAL Soft
    TIMER| InitScripting: 3.30895 ms
    TIMER| CONFIG_Init: 139.97 ms
    ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
    TIMER| RunHardwareDetection: 20.7357 ms
    TIMER| write_sys_info: 17.4437 ms
    TIMER| InitRenderer: 1.13009 ms
    TIMER| ps_console: 1.77938 ms
    TIMER| ps_lang_hotkeys: 892.88 us
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 900.675 us
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 112.685 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 4.41973 ms
    TIMER| common/init.xml: 1.74255 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 2.68947 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 510.205 us
    TIMER| pregame/sprites.xml: 626.055 us
    TIMER| pregame/styles.xml: 80.52 us
    TIMER| pregame/mainmenu.xml: 8.46566 ms
    TIMER| common/global.xml: 463.545 us
    Using Xcursor to sys_cursor_create 32 x 32 cursor
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 1.54036 ms
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 71.16 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 4.75967 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 5.65575 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 305.43 us
    TIMER| manual/styles.xml: 8.35017 ms
    TIMER| manual/manual.xml: 1.73154 ms
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 1.7895 ms
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 108.065 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 3.30294 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 2.61125 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 279.595 us
    TIMER| gamesetup/setup.xml: 182.656 us
    TIMER| gamesetup/sprites.xml: 63.93 us
    TIMER| gamesetup/styles.xml: 66.944 us
    TIMER| gamesetup/gamesetup.xml: 18.4552 ms
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 1.38788 ms
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 65.04 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 3.50367 ms
    TIMER| common/init.xml: 2.14271 ms
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 3.60634 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 280.5 us
    TIMER| loading/styles.xml: 120.795 us
    TIMER| loading/sprites.xml: 401.805 us
    TIMER| loading/loading.xml: 2.4779 ms
    TIMER| common/global.xml: 381.98 us
    Using Xcursor to sys_cursor_create 32 x 32 cursor
    TIMER| common/setup.xml: 991.02 us
    TIMER| common/styles.xml: 45.47 us
    TIMER| common/sprite1.xml: 2.24364 ms
    TIMER| common/icon_sprites.xml: 197.41 us
    TIMER| common/common_sprites.xml: 2.62221 ms
    TIMER| common/common_styles.xml: 376.866 us
    TIMER| session/sprites.xml: 24.8083 ms
    TIMER| session/styles.xml: 474.5 us
    TIMER| session/session.xml: 89.4051 ms
    TIMER| common/global.xml: 1.4172 ms
    GAME STARTED, ALL INIT COMPLETE
    Using Xcursor to sys_cursor_create 32 x 32 cursor
    TIMER| shutdown TexMan: 40.81 us
    TIMER| shutdown Renderer: 13.112 ms
    TIMER| shutdown SDL: 35.7876 ms
    TIMER| shutdown UserReporter: 565.455 us
    TIMER| shutdown ScriptingHost: 27.8689 ms
    TIMER| shutdown ConfigDB: 1.035 us
    TIMER| resource modules: 138.363 ms
    TIMER TOTALS (9 clients)
    -----------------------------------------------------
    tc_png_decode: 73.6262 Mc (58x)
    tc_pool_alloc: 55.1235 Mc (3117x)
    tc_dds_transform: 2926.81 kc (909x)
    tc_transform: 5425.47 kc (306x)
    tc_plain_transform: 1492.92 kc (306x)
    tc_ShaderGLSLLink: 0 c (0x)
    tc_ShaderGLSLCompile: 0 c (0x)
    tc_ShaderValidation: 26.2812 Mc (47x)
    xml_validation: 82.5869 Mc (115x)
    -----------------------------------------------------
    TIMER| shutdown misc: 567.07 us

    As shared in my sig. these are my system details :-

    Intel Dual-Core CPU E5400 (soc 775) @ 2.70GHz, Asus MB P5KPL-AM IN (Intel G31), D-Link 502-T router, 64-bit Debian Wheezy, GNOME 3.6 fallback.

    I do hope to get alpha 12 running soon (it's stuck right now in ftp-master new queue) http://ftp-master.de...a_0.0.12-1.html

    Looking forward for any help or any clue.

    Edit: Also have seen this http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16991 . Guess would just have to wait patiently.

  5. like the idea but that's about it. You can count me in once you have something playable or even movable, then can tell/share if something moves or something is broken (as a sort of manual tester). I am not a developer in any sense of the word but that doesn't stop anyone from dreaming/thinking aloud, does it ?

    Hopefully though if the project does take shape then there is a new repo. which includes the art assets which are used immediately (even if it means importing them in the new repo.) It does not make sense to hog space on the hdd with art assets which would not be used immediately in the RPG setting and I know that the 0AD (at least looking from the 0ad github repo).

    So if and when it happens, the best thing is do it as Povoq shared, small steps. While there could be a basic document as some people have suggested, do a roadmap for small doable tasks.

    The backstory for most RPG's is about a loser (somebody who's not the typical hero per-se) but somebody who is from a lower class and due to his/her exploits, solving side-quests and what not and earning reputation as well as cash/kind things basically enriches himself and his friends. I am thinking more in the single player scenario (which is what I have played most RPG's in and do not really how the the whole multi-player version works although have played in few MMORPG's but that's an endless thing).

    Look forward to something come out of all this.

  6. Of course it would be good to have tutorial scenario(s), but currently we don't have triggers and we want to release solid playable 1.0 version of the game as soon as possible and since properly implemented triggers are massive feature we plan to postpone them to after 1.0 version. I can't say this better than Erik said, so I will quote his words from another topic:

    Thank you that's useful to know, so it's gonna take quite some time. Can any of the mods close the thread now.

  7. Perhaps a tutorial video might be a mix. You don't have to read and everything is explained but since no in-game triggers are implemented yet it's much easier to provide.

    Actually in the short-term, next/upcoming release this might be the solution but at the end of the day nothing beats having an in-game tutorial having triggers. For the experienced ones, they can simply leave. If needed can give many examples, both for RPG,RTS and other types of games who have in-game tutorial to enhance stickiness as well as make the person understand both the game lore as well as control. Just as an e.g. see Medieval 2 http://en.wikipedia....al_War#Tutorial

    If you go in the casual fare, then games like Virtual Villagers and its ilk have also softened the new player coming to the game. Both of the above are commercial offerings. I would have to hunt but I'm guessing similar in-game tutorials would be found also in good FOSS games.

    Update :- Megaglest (the fork of Glest FOSS RTS) features in-game tutorial as well.

    Just my 2 paise.

  8. Can you be more specific about what you expect from a tutorial (vs. a game manual)?

    I am asking so that we can see how to improve. Thanks.

    Jeru, an in-game tutorial would be like for e.g. how the freedroidrpg or crawl-tiles people have done. You go as a player who does not either know the keyboard or the mouse controls and everything is told to you step by step by a friendly narrator. Now of course, I have shared/used RPG's as that is what I have been playing the last few days/weeks but also remember something similar for RTS's as well. Before the campaigns you have tutorial campaigns where you do some sort of mock foraging, mock fighting, mock everything where the narrator hand-holds you and everything. Some games even have tips which make it easier when you are doing stand-alone fights with the computer-controlled AI (Talking single-player here).

    If you go the manual way then you lose more than half of your prospective audience. There are plenty of people like me who would rather play a game rather than try going through a manual (because it would be visual and you are doing/forced to do something) rather than read . Also have music and maybe dialogues ( with or without voice-overs) which just make it complete.

    Overall more bang for the buck (even if the price is zero). Also if you want to make it ambitious the in-game tutorial itself could have one or the other factions in the latter stage/s as well.

    I have to admit that even though I have got your latest build (through Debian) the lack of it hasn't motivated me to play the game.

    Some of the more fun features you could have for later on to be discovered during campaigns or something, secret areas or whatever.

    Just 2 paise from a random guy.

  9. Welcome to the forum, shirish. Your avatar is funny/awesome.

    It's the real me. While registering it automatically took from gravatar.

    @KayEhn thanx for the link but that is BORING. Manuals and multi-page manuals at that are boring. Which means it would be sometime before we can have some sort of tutorial.

  10. Hi all,

    Newbie to the fora and newbie to the game. I was trying to see if there is a tutorial to the game but not. Then tried to see if I could spot a ticket for it, didn't see any ? Maybe its too early to have a ticket for it to follow ? Maybe tutorial is one of the last things people do when they design games ? Looking to understand.

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